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re: 45 Years of age, at what level would you stop saving for retirement?

Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:21 am to
Posted by wahootiger
Member since Sep 2010
311 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:21 am to
Haha - it’s a fair question.

I’ve put in almost 8 years (started at a local - not Louisiana - insurance defense firm). It’s been good in a lot of ways, but the demands on your time and mental health are real. Ive now got two kids under 3 and it no longer feels sustainable to try to meet the firms expectations and live up to my own expectations as a husband and father (let alone trying to have a semblance of a life outside of those two competing priorities). Thus the career move.

But big law was way better than insurance defense.

End hijack. Pros and cons of big law deserve their own thread
Posted by TheOcean
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:34 am to
What year are you big law wise? I have a solo practice. Highly recommend. I started hitting 7 figures last year
Posted by wahootiger
Member since Sep 2010
311 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:41 am to
8 years Big Law (after 4 years insurance defense). Commercial litigation practice.

Got no clients but am working on an arrangement with a former partner who went sole 4-5 years ago to associate on cases with him. Hoping to start there and then build my referral network.

Everyone I have spoken to says solo is the way to go if you can withstand the start up time of not making any money.

Which ties back to the initial question of when can one dial back on retirement contributions. These topics have been on my brain a lot lately.
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
5479 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:47 am to
Not sure what else I can add that hasn't already been saying except to share experiences.

I slowed my 401k contributions once my assets were outrunning my income.

I retired at 52. My withdrawals are significantly higher than 4%. I obviously would not be withdrawing that much unless my assets weren't performing. When they stop performing, I have significant cash reserves to get me through for approximately 5 years until I will have to deviate from plan.

I reject the notion of defining my income by something like a 4% rule and then modeling a probability of not spending all my money by the time I die. This is way too simple of an approach if you want to actually get the most out of your assets. I'm either a genius or a dumbass, but I rest easy in knowing whatever the final outcome that it will have been my own doing.
Posted by TheOcean
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:57 am to
So you're at about 600k/year? My recommendation would be to start getting everything ready now. Depending on your city, good SEO would be well worth it for commercial/residential lit. Could probably add in some additional lit work, too. SEO is what took my firm from 30k/month gross to 100k/month+ gross

QOL is the best reason to switch. I work from home whenever I want to. We travel probably 2-3 months/year and I just work from wherever we travel. Set my own schedule, etc.
This post was edited on 9/13/26 at 8:59 am
Posted by wahootiger
Member since Sep 2010
311 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 9:07 am to
415k is my base (not a partner). The move is definitely QOL motivated. In the process of getting everything set up now and looking to open doors Jan. 1.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 9/14/26 at 9:15 am to
I’ll be 45yo next year. Are you telling me I need to buy me a new boat?
Posted by biscuitsngravy
Tejas, north America
Member since Jan 2011
4053 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 10:45 am to
quote:

I retired 4 months ago at 59 and contributed the max pretax amount to my 401K even on my last pay deposit. Why pay unnecessary taxes?


mini-thread hijack.. how is retirement four months in?
Posted by nolaks
Member since Dec 2013
1353 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 11:30 am to
quote:


I think most in this thread have missed the question. It’s not whether one should retire with 800k at 40, it’s whether one should dial back saving for retirement at that time. With 20 plus years for the portfolio to grow, that could be a possibility.


thank you
Posted by Bdiddy
Member since Jul 2021
344 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 7:44 am to
I think that you may not have to save aggressively, and could spend more, but I would not stop saving. At the age of 45, a lot can change. Maybe your work skills could become obsolete or less in-demand. Your health could change and you could become disabled, or work could become burdensome. I don't know if you mentioned your family, but perhaps you have a child or grandchild who has health problems, or has a business failure and needs financial assistance. It would be a helpless feeling to not be able to help out. I am 66, and could have retired years ago. I still save, but I am able to give more to charity, and I try to spend a little more. When you are my age, it's kind of hard to ramp up spending, especially in that it does not bring me a lot of additional satisfaction. Occasionally picking up the check for my friends at our lowbrow restaurant choices is a nice change.
Posted by backbone
Colorado
Member since Jul 2026
504 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 1:49 pm to
I’ll be working until I drop dead.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78947 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

At the age of 45, a lot can change. Maybe your work skills could become obsolete or less in-demand.


This could happen at any age not just at 45.
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1632 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 7:21 pm to
quote:


I think most in this thread have missed the question. It’s not whether one should retire with 800k at 40, it’s whether one should dial back saving for retirement at that time. With 20 plus years for the portfolio to grow, that could be a possibility.

Whether or not it is a good idea depends on an individuals financial situation and goals. But there is a point where you run into the “problem” of having more money than you can spend in retirement, and you may be better served to spend more now, trade that money for time, etc.


From reading the coast FIRE subreddit, it seems alot of people who reach coast fire early (before age 40) will drastically reduce if not stop contributions all together. Imo that is a mistake as there are too many unknowns that could derail the plan. Now if the expected spend is very low (2-3%) of portfolio, then yeah go ahead and stop contributions.

I know alot of places cite this Fidelity chart. At age 40 Fidelity says you should have at least 3x your salary. When I was 40, I was at almost 5x my income. At age 50 now, I'm at over 15x.

In hindsight, could I have stopped saving at 40? Probably but I wouldn't have been very confident at the time. At age 50, I'm highly confident I'll be able to retire early and that's why I have significantly reduced my contributions. The saver in me won't let me completely stop.

Now more than likely, I have over saved. Which I'm fine with, better than have under saved. I'll just be spending more than planned which I've already started doing as I coast these final few years of working.



Posted by Craft
Member since Oct 2019
1332 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 8:05 pm to
i’m 32, own my forever home, no debt. 500k in 401k, 200k in taxable brokerage, 40k in roth ira, 100k in bank. thinking about quitting job and letting my money grow. bad idea?
Posted by Mariner
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jul 2009
2722 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 9:32 pm to
The fear of the unknown at 32 would haunt me. Outside of a major illness or accident, you have 40-60 years left. If you have all these assets at 32, imagine what you would have at 42 if you kept working?

Quit the job if you hate it and want to try something new. You have the freedom to do that.
Posted by Bdiddy
Member since Jul 2021
344 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 10:12 pm to
I agree that obsolescence can occur at any age. I just meant that he is pretty young. I'm pretty sure that at 66, I am obsolete, but my clients are too old to realize it.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
42084 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 10:35 pm to
quote:

wahootiger


Gonna be awesome man.

I started this year and I’m making roughly double while putting in roughly half the hours.

I make more than I ever have and I play 2-3 rounds of golf every week and I’m able to be really involved with my kids and their school/extracurriculars.


Back to the theme of this thread, if I can keep up (or increase) this revenue level for the next 2-3 years, I’ll probably be able to just coast from there and just work whatever comes in. If business keeps coming in after that, great. But if things dry up in a few years then I’m good either way. Looking forward to my second career (lol) as a high school golf coach.
This post was edited on 9/17/26 at 10:49 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96493 posts
Posted on 9/18/26 at 6:13 am to
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This would be heavily predicated on risk tolerance, but for me, it would be when my inflation adjusted average annual returns are equal to or greater than my anticipated inflation adjusted living expenses.


This is as good a benchmark as any. Any other passive sources (annuities, pensions, SS) would then just be lagniappe.
Posted by wahootiger
Member since Sep 2010
311 posts
Posted on 9/18/26 at 2:46 pm to
Sorry for the thread hijack again.

What practice area? Any tips for starting out?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
42084 posts
Posted on 9/18/26 at 3:11 pm to
I primarily do commercial real estate transactions.


For me the biggest thing that's helped has been doing everything I can to keep overhead low. I covered my yearly expenses in month one, simply because my yearly expenses are less than 10k.

Make yourself available and hit up all those bar events to network and let people know that you've gone out on your own.

I've already had several people I know who've been using their attorney for a long time come to me to see if I can take over their work simply because that person's lawyer no longer treats them like a priority. Being solo, I feel like I can give clients a LOT more priority than when I was in my firm and was drowning on like 15 different matters at a time.
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