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re: Why do you think Shaq didn’t win a Natty at LSU?
Posted on 6/2/26 at 10:02 am to drizztiger
Posted on 6/2/26 at 10:02 am to drizztiger
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the main reason Shaq didn’t win the NC is because teams were fricking stacked back then.
and overlooked is that Shaq was a work in progress back then, he was pretty raw at LSU but improved with each season, not the same as NBA Shaq, by a lot
Posted on 6/2/26 at 10:04 am to LSU Neil
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There is some footage from an interview with Shaq referencing the egos on the team. They all wanted their points. Dale had not one but two seven footers plus chris Jackson. Between Dale not knowing what to do with that talent, and the team not being a team, it’s “what could have been”
This. Talent was there, even Dale Brown should have been able to get them to a Final Four. But Dale wasn't up to the coaching challenge.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 10:10 am to LSU Neil
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There is some footage from an interview with Shaq referencing the egos on the team.
I agree. There is tape, that I remember, of Shaq with the ball and refused to pass to wide open Chris. Instead he forced it up, was fouled, and missed the free throws.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 10:22 am to 777Tiger
quote:Agreed. I've said this many times on this board and got retorted with Shaq's freshman stats. He wasn't the Freshman of the year. That was...
and overlooked is that Shaq was a work in progress back then, he was pretty raw at LSU but improved with each season, not the same as NBA Shaq, by a lot
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Kenny Anderson of Georgia Tech was the consensus 1990 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Freshman of the Year.
Guess who LSU lost to in the NCAAT? And who did that team lose to in the Final Four?
Not coming at you, just asking people to educate themselves.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 10:36 am to Good Times
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I still feel sorry for Fess Irvin.
Fess was never the same after this game
Irvin not Irwin
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 6/2/26 at 10:54 am to 777Tiger
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Dale Brown
put LSU basketball on the map
And helped remove it too. Dude had a great run until he destroyed it.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 11:08 am to SaintlyTiger88
Dale didn't use the "Freak Defense" enough in the tourney.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 11:08 am to SaintlyTiger88
Pg play is paramount in the college game. He didn’t play w a good one.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 11:15 am to 777Tiger
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and overlooked is that Shaq was a work in progress back then, he was pretty raw at LSU but improved with each season,
Brown even brought in Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Bill Walton to help Shaq with various big man skills. People love to forget or just don’t care know just how much Shaq improved from the time he stepped foot on campus to when he left.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 11:20 am to SaintlyTiger88
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Obviously an all time great coach in Dale Brown.
Because Dale Brown wasn't an all time great coach. He may have been an all time great coach within the scope of LSU, but he wasn't within the scope of College Basketball.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 11:36 am to TigerFanatic99
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Because Dale Brown wasn't an all time great coach.
3rd winningest coach in SEC history doesn’t get you on list of all timers?
Behind only Rupp and Donovan.
Ahead of CM Newton, Durham, Pearl, Richardson, etc.
Multiple Sweet 16s, elite 8s, final 4s. SEC titles.
Man yall have a different measure of success
Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:08 pm to saintsfan22
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People blame Dale's in game coaching for it but it was a recruiting failure.
Jamie Brandon from Chicago was supposed to be the successor but it never came together for him, one of the best recruits in the country
Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:15 pm to MSGulfTiger
Bill Laimbeer played for Notre Dame.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:17 pm to SaintlyTiger88
People don’t know jack. It wasn’t Dale Brown. He was a great coach. He beat teams that had more talent than LSU for over a decade. His most talented teams 1980 and the years with Shaq, simply lost close games against great teams. He lost in the tournament several times to the eventual champion. He coached a GREAT game against the Indiana team that won by one point. That Indiana team had twice the talent and we almost beat them. The greatest game I’ve ever attended was in the superdome vs. Georgetown. LSU didn’t have the talent but beat them in front of a record crowd. Thanks coach for the greatest years in LSU basketball history. Will wade has to win a lot of SEC championships to catch up. He won’t be able to in my opinion
Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:23 pm to drizztiger
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He only played one year with CJ and look at who they lost to in the NCAAT, and who subsequently won the NCCAT.
One of the biggest reasons they lost in 1992 was Mike Hansen getting momo in the last month of the season. He was a shooter in the mold of Keith Hornsby and Max Mckinnon and kept opponents from packing the paint. He was not the same after he returned from missing a couple of weeks.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:43 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Coaching! Plain & simple! with that final four squad they had if they had a top tier coach they would've cut down the nets!
Posted on 6/2/26 at 12:46 pm to Picayuner
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It wasn’t Dale Brown. He was a great coach
I think it's all relative - Dale gave me some great memories of basketball and was a fantastic motivator and recruiter - those things are part of coaching and those are two things he was good at. He had a couple of teams that really overachieved according to their talent and got kids to come to LSU that for the most part did not in the past.
quote:I would argue that for the span from 1978-79 to 90-91 - you could argue LSU could compare talent-wise over that span with the vast majority of teams in College hoops - so for half his career his talent level matched up very well.
He beat teams that had more talent than LSU for over a decade.
quote:You are correct here, we had no business even being in that game, that run in the tourney was Dale's finest hour. But he cost his team the game going four corners with the 9-point lead, I'll argue that till the cows come home.
He coached a GREAT game against the Indiana team that won by one point. That Indiana team had twice the talent and we almost beat them.
quote:That was fun, I was there as well.
he greatest game I’ve ever attended was in the superdome vs. Georgetown.
quote:WW took over a pretty bad situation and did much better than Dale did in their respective first 5 years. And his SEC title in a much tougher SEC was one more than Dale got in his first 5.
Will wade has to win a lot of SEC championships to catch up. He won’t be able to in my opinion
Saying Dale was a strong contributing factor in why LSU never one a Natty when Shaq was here is not an unreasonable statement. It can be argued here certainly - and several have. Dale had his strengths and Dale had his faults - but it was never boring we can say that.
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