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re: What’s your opinion on the called intentional hit by pitch
Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:08 pm to Meatball
Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:08 pm to Meatball
The rule is flawed because the officials can’t know the intent of the batter. The logical approach is that if the pitch is outside of the strike zone and it hits the batter, the batter goes to first. Period.
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Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:08 pm to Meatball
As everyone else has already said, it
was a natural for someone turning away. And it’s nonsensical to intentionally get hit by a pitch in the batter’s box on a full count.
But on top of all that, it just feels like the type of call we would never get if the situation was reversed. We would have folks bitching about Jay wasting challenges.
You’d like to think the replay official needs more than that to overturn a call late in a 1-0 game of the CWS championship series… but here we are.
was a natural for someone turning away. And it’s nonsensical to intentionally get hit by a pitch in the batter’s box on a full count.
But on top of all that, it just feels like the type of call we would never get if the situation was reversed. We would have folks bitching about Jay wasting challenges.
You’d like to think the replay official needs more than that to overturn a call late in a 1-0 game of the CWS championship series… but here we are.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:09 pm to Meatball
I think it was bad. The rule is dumb. He was clearly trying to get out of the way which is why he turned around it just so happens his elbow went down. That should be ball 4 anyway so he shouldn't be out regardless. Just dumb how that's setup.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:09 pm to Meatball
Pathetic call, sucked big time
Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:10 pm to Meatball
They were never going to give the call to LSU. the review lasted 20 seconds. I’ve seen them discuss and review completely, 100%, totally obvious calls for 3+ minutes.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:10 pm to Revelator
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The rule should be, if it’s an obvious ball pitch anyway, the player should be rewarded the base regardless
It use to be this way and they've changed it to what it is now in an effort to discourage guys trying to get hbp.
It is clearly a broken rule if guys can be called out in the situation we saw tonight.
This post was edited on 6/21/25 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:12 pm to Meatball
I thought the rule ages ago was you’re out if you intentionally lean into a strike. Who gives a frick if the pitch is a ball. It’s a broken rule.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:13 pm to Meatball
I get it by the rule. But he turned his head away (thinking he might get hit), so I don’t even think he could see the ball coming in if he wanted to make sure it’d happen. So I don’t think the intentional part was there.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:14 pm to BatonrougeCajun
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You can’t drop your elbow into the ball. Yeah it was ball 4 but Dick knows better
His head was turned and elbow went down and away from pitcher
Stupid overturn and complete BS - IF he wants to get hit he sticks the elbow out
Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:15 pm to Meatball
If it doesn’t hit him, it’s ball 4, so who cares if he leaned into it? The only call that doesn’t make sense there is the one they made.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:20 pm to lsusteve1
If you watch the replay in slow motion you see that his elbow was dropped into the final location where the ball hit him several micro seconds before the ball actually hit him. His elbow was not moving right before the ball hit him. Thus, he was not moving to purposefully get hit by the ball.
Unless you think that the batter knew exactly where the ball was going to be, within a radius of a few inches, before the ball was even halfway to him. Humans can't react with that speed. If they could then you wouldn't see hitters swing at a ball a foot off of the outside of the plate or in the dirt in front of the plate.
This was a totally stupid fricking interpretation of the rule and the league officials who ruled this so should be punished in some manner by the league for such a potentially game deciding mistake.
Unless you think that the batter knew exactly where the ball was going to be, within a radius of a few inches, before the ball was even halfway to him. Humans can't react with that speed. If they could then you wouldn't see hitters swing at a ball a foot off of the outside of the plate or in the dirt in front of the plate.
This was a totally stupid fricking interpretation of the rule and the league officials who ruled this so should be punished in some manner by the league for such a potentially game deciding mistake.
This post was edited on 6/21/25 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:27 pm to Meatball
Awful call. As another guy stated, the pitch came into the batter's box.
With that being the case, the rule should be "call it a ball" if you think he moved into it. You can call him out if he's over the plate.
With that being the case, the rule should be "call it a ball" if you think he moved into it. You can call him out if he's over the plate.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:29 pm to Meatball
Shouldn't be reviewable on ball 4...period.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:37 pm to Meatball
I dont think it should be reviewable. Hitters are taught to go to the ball on every pitch….theyre not expecting to have to avoid it. They’re swinging until the last split second, it’s every hitters approach….rule needs to be changed…it should only be called when blatant.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:47 pm to BatonrougeCajun
quote:His elbow didn't move even 1 millimeter towards the plate. It was a completely botched replay. I have no idea what they were thinking. At the least, it's a "call stands"
Yeah it was ball 4 but Dick knows better
Posted on 6/21/25 at 11:07 pm to Meatball
I thought it was BS
Posted on 6/21/25 at 11:13 pm to slackster
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which is an insane rule because it’s fricking instinctive to drop your elbow as you turn
More like an anatomical fact
Posted on 6/21/25 at 11:18 pm to Meatball
He dropped his arm with the elbow pad about 4-6 inches and got hit. If he doesn’t move, he doesn’t get hit and take ball 4. Easy call. Dickinson fricked up. They made the right call
Posted on 6/21/25 at 11:36 pm to Bengal Sporto
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He dropped his arm with the elbow pad about 4-6 inches and got hit. If he doesn’t move, he doesn’t get hit and take ball 4. Easy call. Dickinson fricked up. They made the right call
What a dumb fricking take.....a batter moved in the batter's box while a pitch came in so he deserved to get called out for it. Dumb fricking take.
If you look at the AB in slow motion instant replay you will see that he STOPPED moving his left arm well before the ball hit him. How could he know that the ball was going to end up in that exact location. Human beings that are batting do not have the capability of knowing that detail with such precision.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 11:38 pm to Meatball
Total crap. Super slow motion HD has ruined replay in all sports. The game is not played in HD and there is no way in hell you can judge intent in that manner. So the premise is flawed and to top it off, it was painfully obvious that he was in the process of swinging/checking his swing when the ball is 2/3 of the way to the plate when it rode in on him. No way in hell did he intentionally lean in there.
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