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re: What do Arnsparger, Saban, and Kelly have in common?

Posted on 9/24/25 at 8:13 am to
Posted by BhamTigah
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 8:13 am to
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Hallman 36.4%


frick that dude, and frick Brett Favre for making our AD think he was a good coach.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
12107 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 8:14 am to
Saban was 48-16 during his tenure at LSU.

Ed Orgeron was 48-16 after his first 64 games as Tigahs coach.
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
3215 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 9:07 am to
Arnsparger was a great recruiter even though he may not have enjoyed it. I remember saying he was bringing in players from states we never used to get players like CA and AZ and OK. he was our first coach that was recruiting nationally than regionally. Wish he would have stayed a while.
Posted by KTiger85
Member since Oct 2018
917 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 9:25 am to
Agree. He was really building something here. I remember being pissed when he left. He shot himself in the foot. He would have built a dynasty here had he stayed.
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15387 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 10:27 am to
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Miles inherited a gold mine of talent


You can make the case so did Saban. 2000 team was stacked when Saban got here.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7701 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 10:29 am to
None of them had connections to Louisiana before coming to LSU.
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
6838 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 10:50 am to
Kelly left a playoff team and inherited the LSU Football Program- only CBK and DiNardo had to build up from a shell of what it once was
DiNardo- brought back excitement & recruiting prowess
CBK- brought back discipline, organization, and maturity (also the first Coach that had to deal with NIL)
Hell it ran the GOAT out of CF.
Posted by Bacon84
Texas
Member since Oct 2012
1347 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 11:11 am to
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SEC win % Cholly Mac - 60.3% Arnsparger - 77.8% Saban - 70% Miles - 68.9% Orgeron - 67.4% Kelly - 72.0%


I feel like Saban single-handedly crushed Les Miles %.

I’m not doing the math, but I would think if you removed Miles vs. Saban match ups. Les would be at 90% or better.
It’s crazy how competitive both were for so long .
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
43009 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 11:29 am to
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I’m not doing the math, but I would think if you removed Miles vs. Saban match ups. Les would be at 90% or better.


Les was 3-6 vs Saban in SEC games (not counting the Natty as a conference game) take those games out and you end up with a 72.8 % SEC winning percentage
Posted by LSUbasketballfan
Member since Jan 2021
484 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 11:37 am to
Too bad Kelly didn’t win an SEC championship in his 1st 3 years at LSU like tge others did.
Posted by how333
Member since Dec 2020
4026 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 12:17 pm to
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Miles inherited a gold mine of talent


He did; however, it didn't last 12 seasons.
Posted by GA Tiger
Woodstock
Member since Aug 2005
3502 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 1:23 pm to
Arnsparger won with talent Stovall left

quote:

SEC win %

Cholly Mac - 60.3%

Arnsparger - 77.8%

Saban - 70% Miles - 68.9%

Orgeron - 67.4%

Kelly - 72.0%
Posted by BhamTigah
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Member since Jan 2007
17381 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:06 pm to
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Les was 3-6 vs Saban in SEC games (not counting the Natty as a conference game) take those games out and you end up with a 72.8 % SEC winning percentage



Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
43009 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:33 pm to
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
7519 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:39 pm to
All three were coaches at LSU.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14179 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:49 pm to
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while he may not have liked to recruit, he was pretty good at it. His team in 87 that was coached by archer could have won the natty imo



Most of his and Archers talent were recruited by Stovall.

He was fired before he had a chance to enjoy the benefit of his work in recruiting.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
44922 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 3:54 pm to
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Saban only won 75% of games at LSU. Seriously doubt that.
Look it up genius.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
12758 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 4:09 pm to
Miles inherited a program as talented as any in the country. The fact we didn't win a Championship in '05 or '06 is still criminal.

If Miles was not as egotistical and stubborn to adapt the offense he is likely still our Head Coach. Its been well documented he and Jimbo would be at each others throats which was problematic. Same with Crowton. still unreal
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
10013 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 5:57 pm to
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but he left LSU in a terrible position.


How many players were on the roster the day he was fired?
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20208 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 11:26 pm to
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The fact we didn't win a Championship in '05 or '06 is still criminal.


The '05 season was disrupted by Katrina and Rita and I think we played like 10 straight weeks going into the SECCG. Are you sure it was "criminal" that we didn't win it all?

In '06 we played four top-10 SEC road games (Auburn, UF, UTenn, and Arky). We went 2-2 in those games. IMO, we underachieved - mostly in Gainesville. But Arky only played 1 ranked SEC team (Auburn) which they won. Really crazy schedule disparity.
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