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re: UPDATE: Per ESPN, A.J. Haulcy will not play in the first half of the Clemson game

Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:24 pm to
Posted by Wabbit7
Member since Aug 2018
2268 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:24 pm to
I don’t understand this. How does another school asking the NCAA about a ruling get it changed?
Posted by RGJ18
Collierville, TN
Member since Feb 2010
9236 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:29 pm to
The ncaa is a criminal organization. frick them.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
30766 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:31 pm to
Yikes. Shades of Devin White following his ejection vs Miss. St. in the 4th quarter Oct. 20, 2018. Next game he sat out the first half vs Bama; Tigers trailed already 22-0 when he got back in the game.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12685 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:00 pm to
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This is confusing. Koki Riley Tweet

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What a clown world.

So a few things we have confirmation on between Pete Thamel and Koki Riley:

- Haulcy’s penalty did not carry a 1/2 game suspension at the time he was ejected.

- The Big 12 reviewed the penalty and upgraded it to a 1/2 game suspension, notifying the Houston coaching staff via mail in “early December” (note that Haulcy also announced his intent to transfer on December 8*).

*ETA: Actually this part is incorrect. I was looking at his previous transfer to Houston. Looks like he didn’t announce intent to transfer from Houston until the spring window which does make this whole thing… more bizarre.

- Pete Thamel gets a formal statement from the NCAA confirming all of this, while LSU tells Koki Riley they still haven’t received any confirmation from the NCAA themselves.

Other information that has been reported (though not everyone believes from what I’m seeing):

- Neither LSU nor Haulcy were notified of the Big 12’s decision to upgrade the penalty to a 1/2 game suspension.

- Someone on the Clemson side appears to have raised the issue.

I can understand BK’s comments about hoping “common sense prevails” after reading all of this. Unless there are clear rules to the contrary (which I have not seen) it’s absolutely plausible to me that the Houston staff might not have notified Haulcy or LSU about the suspension notice from the Big 12. I doubt the Big 12 would have notified LSU after Haulcy’s transfer either.

And under NCAA rules it’s not the NCAA’s responsibility to enforce suspensions - it’s the “assigning agent” who, in this case, is the Big 12’s officiating director/coordinator. So in this case we technically have a suspension being enforced against an LSU player by another conference, who quite possibly (likely IMO) would have never had reason to notify LSU of the suspension in the first place.

The whole thing is a little ridiculous.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 11:50 pm
Posted by Draco Malfoy
Member since Mar 2024
2858 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:10 pm to
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The whole thing is a little ridiculous.


And only happens to us
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
8267 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:20 pm to
This doesn’t seem enforceable.

Play him
Posted by OldTigerFan1962
Member since Jun 2025
39 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:33 pm to
NCAA has no real power with the Power 4 conferences. Play him. ncaa will take 5 years to complete their investigation and their findings will be to punish Kelly with a 1/2 game suspension against Northwestern State. ??
Posted by Fast Times @ LSU
Camas
Member since Jan 2005
2104 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:48 pm to
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I don’t understand this. How does another school asking the NCAA about a ruling get it changed?


because that's not what happened. Haulcy was ejected and it was recorded as non-flagrant unsportsmanlike conduct. After the game, Big 12 changed that to flagrant and fighting and sent a letter to Houston informing them. So, the only players involved with it going from unsportsmanlike to fighting is Houston and Big 12.

That LSU is finding out 9 months later is a question of how did that happen?
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
Member since May 2023
8230 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:58 pm to
Clemson definitely knew about this shite months ago. They did this on purpose just like Hillary Clinton waited 2 days before election to drop the Trump "Grab her by her **ssy" video. Clinton was weak. Clinton lost. Clemson is weak. Clemson will lose.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 10:58 pm
Posted by Flyingtiger82
BFE
Member since Oct 2019
1575 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:37 pm to
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Team found out about Safety's AJ Haulcy's status issue on Wednesday. - Kelly said they are waiting for further guidance from SEC and NCAA on his status and expect to get an answer very soon. - Background: AJ Haulcy was in an on-field altercation at the end of his last game last season at the University of Houston. Since Houston didn't have a bowl game, there is concern that Haulcy may have to sit out the first half of the Clemson game.


How in the hell does a program as big as LSU not know that he wasn’t playing in the first half? If they just now found out about this, they might as well bring Les Miles back. Clueless. Fricking clueless.
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
7728 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:53 pm to
Another wrinkle of the transfer portal era.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51040 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:54 pm to
Seeing as it wasn’t an NCAA suspension, but a Big 12 suspension AFTER the game was over, can they enforce a half game suspension the following season on a player that is no longer in their conference?

Seems like a bit of a stretch to me. He’s no longer a member of the Big 12 conference, so who gives a shite if they deem him suspended for a half?
Posted by Fast Times @ LSU
Camas
Member since Jan 2005
2104 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:58 pm to
I think that’s what Kelly meant today. We asked SEC officials if it’s still valid & are waiting to hear from our conference officials.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37783 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 5:07 am to
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How in the hell does a program as big as LSU not know that he wasn’t playing in the first half? If they just now found out about this, they might as well bring Les Miles back. Clueless. Fricking clueless.

Read the words you fricking dumbass. There’s no way they could have known.
Now GFY pussy.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
12624 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 5:17 am to
According to the article from ESPN, for what it’s worth:
quote:

NCAA rules are clear that a suspension follows a player after a transfer and there is no appeal process
ESPN article Thursday 9:06 PM EST
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9049 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 5:24 am to
Thanks for posting. From the article:

quote:

Haulcy was initially ejected for unsportsmanlike conduct, a penalty that wouldn't generally yield a suspension.


"INITIALLY ejected" ??? You can be ejected more than once?
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4469 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 5:26 am to
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NCAA rules are clear that a suspension follows a player after a transfer and there is no appeal process


And that bolded part is a huge problem. Depriving players of due process seems like it should be more of an issue than it apparently is.
Posted by LSUChamps03
Member since Feb 2006
2947 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 5:42 am to
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And that bolded part is a huge problem. Depriving players of due process seems like it should be more of an issue than it apparently is.


LSU should ask the courts for a TRO(?). If they get it then drop it the week of the Southestern game.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9049 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 5:44 am to
Also from the article:

quote:

Houston's coaching staff was made aware of the classification of his ejection and the first-half suspension in December 2024 in a formal letter from the NCAA. 


Not saying it doesn't exist, but has the letter been published? Seems odd to refer to a nonspecific date in December. If the author had a copy of the letter, he would have written, "In a December 8 letter, the NCAA notified...."

Also, why would the NCAA be involved? The Conference had already issued the "clarification." Maybe just bad journalism, but this seems murky for a multi-million dollar business.
Posted by Chef Curry
Member since Mar 2019
2946 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 6:04 am to
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If Clemson’s interference causes Halcey to sit the first half I really hope we stomp their asses worse than the natty game…


No doubt Clemson pulled some pussy shite, but this situation is laughably pathetic of the LSU coaching staff. How many people are on this staff? How much is the staff paid? You meant not a single person is tasked with keeping track of shite like this?

I have 0 faith in BK getting the job done.
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