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re: The thing I don’t understand about local media re: the cbs article

Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:06 am to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:06 am to
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He was a key part of the core staff that elevated LSU to being the best college football program in America in the 2000s.


ok… but Nick Saban.
Posted by That LSU Guy
The boys are back in town.
Member since Jul 2008
15940 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:08 am to
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LSU is entering a Jimbo / A&M type situation with BK. It all starts with these types of articles in the media. Eventually this will spread discontent with boosters and the fan base.


LOL NO
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18991 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:15 am to
I was shocked to see that basically every sports media guy in BR was giving this guy attention, even going as far as to title their show with it as the topic. They talk about how ridiculous of an article it is but draw all of this attention to it.

I did think it was kind of funny that Moscona used Kyren Lacy to prove that the players love Brian Kelly as if an active player would ever publicly talk to the media about how much they dislike their coach.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
5234 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:35 am to
Yeah, of course.
It's really beside the point. The point is Texas A&M would've been in the double digits in wins with a full schedule.
Jimbo's role is a side point. I'm just saying that's another reason to not be unfair with a distorted narrative about him.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62709 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 12:05 pm to
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Hunt the Fan


You did fine Hunt. When you read the part about “unnamed sources inside the industry with ties to the LSU program” or whatever, it was clear he was getting 3rd hand information. AT BEST. Probably closer to 4th or 5th hand.

And I think the absolute right move was to let him talk and not challenge him (it’s not your job to carry LSU’s water either). It was clear that he doesn’t like Kelly, that a lot of people in the national media don’t like him, and it was more of him wishcasting there was an issue than having any sort of actual evidence. You let him hang his credibility himself. And this was before I knew he had anything to do with Bama or had written/tweeted anti-Kelly content previously.

You’re making the point that a team going down 17-0 and coming back in that environment and finding a way to win was sufficient. Matt having Kyran on really shut it down for good. But I think y’all handled it professionally and pretty perfectly. Y’all in no way “carried his water.” That’s absurd. You simply dismissed him, which probably hurt him worse than if you’d have come out and tried to defend BK with guns blazing.

BK doesn’t need defending on this story. It’s a nothing burger, and engaging in some sort of “fight” would just have shined light on it and given it the credence it didn’t deserve. It was an unprofessional hack job written out of a personal bias and spite rather than a piece of actual journalism. Again, dismissing it and not giving it any more legs was the right play by you and Matt. That would have just given him exactly what he wanted. Apathy hurts more than hate.
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
7129 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 2:22 pm to
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This dude brought us to the sec champ year 1

In a historically weak SEC-W division, on a gamble in overtime. Great season but still you have to keep some perspective. And FWIW I think the BK hire is solid and he will win a NC here.
Posted by MikeTheTiger11
Sip
Member since Sep 2023
789 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 2:57 pm to
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In a historically weak SEC-W division, on a gamble in overtime. Great season but still you have to keep some perspective


So do you keep perspective when you remember that the 2003 team's championship is contested and that the 2007 team had to get lucky on the last night of college football with multiple teams ahead of them losing? Or do you just say damn those were great teams
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 3:16 pm to
Journalists, so-called, are often sniveling weaklings.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
12298 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 3:20 pm to
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That being said, Matt Moscona is a fcuking dipshit when it comes to LSU sports. Do yourself a favor and stop entertaining this buffoon. He’s just another click-bait grifter who doesn’t understand football or the business of football.


100%
As hard as I try I cannot like that guy. He's a giant douche.
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
7129 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 3:27 pm to
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So do you keep perspective when you remember that the 2003 team's championship is contested and that the 2007 team had to get lucky on the last night of college football with multiple teams ahead of them losing? Or do you just say damn those were great teams

You are conflating two championship years/teams with a team that finished second in its conference? Not really sure I understand the comparison.

LSU won the nation championship both of those years, the "contested" status is bullshite and everyone knows it except for the petty fans of the other teams that think that the bronze medal equals gold.
This post was edited on 9/19/24 at 3:30 pm
Posted by tigergirl26
Member since Jan 2013
1873 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 3:28 pm to
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Im not a fan of Moscona but I listened to his podcast and he was critical of the guy.


And this is exactly what happened. I listened to both his morning show and AFR and he said the same thing. I get not liking a person. I don't always agree with his takes, but I'll never say he said or didn't say something because of my personal feelings about someone. I just feel like some people are saying Moscona wasn't critical because they feel he didnt go far enough. Just because he didn't do it in a way that satisfied you doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Posted by MikeTheTiger11
Sip
Member since Sep 2023
789 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 7:47 pm to
I made the comparison because you were acting like winning the west wasn’t impressive because it was “weak” that year and took an overtime game to win it.

2007 was a great team but were lucky af to be in that game to play Ohio St. I’m literally doing the same thing you did
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23530 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 10:29 pm to
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I have the theory that a program like alabama would send a little stipend to certain media if they write negatively regarding LSU. Kinda like how Pawwwl is currently shitting on LSU.

I don't think it's Bama, I think one of our boosters is doing it.

Somebody got their panties bunched up after we lost to USC, didn't beat Nicholls 77-0, and then got in a dogfight with South Carolina. You can tell, some people are rampaging on this board about that. I heard a couple dumbasses at work swearing that Kelly was going to be fired by the end of the season, "that's what they hear". One of those guys also said Kelly never did shite, just a bunch of 8-4 teams at Notre Dame
I tried to point out he had seven 10-win seasons out of 12 years, including the last 5... he didn't want to hear that bullshite.

We were due for this. Saban and Emmert did a good job getting the boosters and politicians away from the program, Miles kept it that way, but Orgeron opened the gates when he was here. And now you have to keep allowing them some access in return for NIL.
Posted by ZDubs
Member since Jul 2024
44 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 10:33 pm to
A&M has had 1 ten win season since 1999…
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
10508 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 10:42 pm to
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But I just can't let you say CBK is a hard arse -- he's just not.


He absolutely is, and that has been his reputation throughout the country for his entire coaching career.

That fact is not changed by a poster on Tigerdroppings.com named p226 telling everyone that Kelly is not a hard arse.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105300 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 10:47 pm to
Sports media is a fraternity and they don't interfere with each other's ability to make a living if they can help it. You especially don't embarrass a national guy if you're a local guy. They're all in a precarious situation these days and they need each other.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70680 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 10:59 pm to
Hard arse hugs after Lacey went air shotgun twice then Burns acted the arse. That’ll teach em
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
49682 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:16 pm to
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Hester said it was bullshite this morning, and went out of his way to say “I’ve been in that locker room.”

Granted, I think Hester is pretty careful not to air dirty laundry. But I don’t think he would come out that dismissive of the claim if he didn’t actually think it’s wrong.


All of this. I am not here to defend anything with Kelly but there is absolutely zero sign of a disconnect with Kelly and the players. In fact all signs point to the exact opposite. Mascona and the other local media types are fricking cowards for covering for this shite stirrer.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23530 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:57 pm to
Like I said, I think the real shite stirrer is some disgruntled booster. They're not getting the same access they did with Orgeron, and they're being petty and pissy about it.

About Orgeron, just to name a few:
politicians flying with the team to the Tennessee game
governor sitting front row at the Heisman for Burrow
boosters going to the White House with the team after winning the national title, strutting around with the players dancing

That's the type of good ol' boy shite that Saban stopped, Orgeron let back in, and now Kelly's having to stop again. I'd bet anything one of those guys with the big egos is having a temper tantrum, and creating a lot of this shite right now.
Posted by Fast Times @ LSU
Camas
Member since Jan 2005
2201 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 1:36 am to
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John Talte


John Talty is a national CFB writer, who is based in Birmingham, AL. Former editor for AL.com and wrote a book on Saban. WAFB probably doesn't write most of their stories.

https://www.cbssports.com/writers/john-talty/
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