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Texas Football Duplicating LSU Model?

Posted on 5/12/20 at 12:40 pm
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 5/12/20 at 12:40 pm
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The conclusion drawn is that bc LSU had a new AD and shot to the stars, now that Texas has a new AD the same thing is possible.

At one point the statement is made that "if you ask LSU people what caused their epic rise last year they won't point to coaching, they won't point to some (QB) transfer, they won't point to facilities, they won't even point to recruiting.....they'll point to Scott Woodward".

I think we all agree Woodward is going to be a great AD, but they just missed the boat if they don't understand it is all of those things that made the difference.

They did conclude by saying "at least all of the internal excuses are off the table.....we'll find out if Tom Herman is the right guy".
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
9027 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 12:44 pm to
Scott Woodward is as advertised. We beat Alabama and won the national championship in his first year as AD.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70095 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

they just missed the boat if they don't understand it is all of those things that made the difference.


There was such an alignment of stars that brought last year to fruition that you're correct, they are truly misguided if you try to point to a single occurrence that brought about the results of last season.
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7057 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 12:45 pm to
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they just missed the boat


Agree
Posted by mattfromnj
New Jersey
Member since Mar 2020
568 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

"if you ask LSU people what caused their epic rise last year they won't point to coaching, they won't point to some (QB) transfer, they won't point to facilities, they won't even point to recruiting


What LSU people is he talking to?

Also if I'm Tom Herman I'm not too excited about that last quote.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89831 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

"if you ask LSU people what caused their epic rise last year they won't point to coaching, they won't point to some (QB) transfer, they won't point to facilities, they won't even point to recruiting.....they'll point to Scott Woodward"


lulz...
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
7945 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 12:57 pm to
Scott isn’t going to be a roadblock for any athletics program and he sure wasn’t the sole reason for last season. Every possible star aligned to make last year happen. Hell, you can thank Alleva(Verge) for putting Texas on schedule and Herman’s agent for playing LSU.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 12:57 pm to
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Scott Woodward is as advertised. We beat Alabama and won the national championship in his first year as AD.



Let's not get carried away here. Woodward is off to a good start but he was far from directly responsible for the football team's success the past season, he barely made it in just last year. I will give him credit for straightening out compliance SOME so far easing them off the coaches backs dealing with suspensions and being able to PICK the games instead of just doing 3 or 6 games in a row. I bet that's a clear example of Woodward's early influence.

The main result of last year's football success relied mostly on O/E going out getting Brady to transform the offense and Joe's meteoric rise as a player as well.

It's absolutely obnoxious to sit here and give Woodward all or most of the credit to things that were mostly outside his control from the start of going into last season.
This post was edited on 5/12/20 at 12:59 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66348 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:01 pm to
that is a really huge statement with very little support.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14395 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:02 pm to
I know there was a line of thought that football would improve because Scott would hold O accountable. I thought the more accurate reality was that Scott would work in concert with O and give him the resources and support that he needed to be successful.

Just from an outside viewpoint I saw Alleva as more of a boss/employee relationship with Alleva believing he would control O and Ed and Scott as more of a collegial relationship with Scott as an advocate and resource to build the program to where it needed to be.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11142 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:06 pm to
Its the sleep pods that make the difference. Don't tell them.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50665 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:09 pm to
247 hired a guy that is like Cowherd.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59067 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

"if you ask LSU people what caused their epic rise last year they won't point to coaching, they won't point to some (QB) transfer, they won't point to facilities, they won't even point to recruiting.....they'll point to Scott Woodward".


what LSAU people say that

I love the Woodward hire and the AD has an impact on the long term success of a football program but Scott Woodward had as much to do with the 2019 LSU football season as my wearing my lucky boxers did. If Aleva was still AD we still win the NC go 15-0 win. the Heisman etc
This post was edited on 5/12/20 at 1:12 pm
Posted by PrimetimeDaBoss
Swag City, USA
Member since Oct 2008
7144 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:12 pm to
Thank Alleva for that
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
16410 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:12 pm to
To this point all I know he can do is write big checks. He needs to get basketball straightened out and redo or replace PMAC as well as answer the questions about game days. Jury still out on Scotty.
This post was edited on 5/12/20 at 1:14 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:16 pm to
Im trying to think what Woodward has done in a year and its theres pretty much nothing of note.

what a silly quote
This post was edited on 5/12/20 at 1:18 pm
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14395 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:19 pm to
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The main result of last year's football success relied mostly on O/E going out getting Brady to transform the offense and Joe's meteoric rise as a player as well. It's absolutely obnoxious to sit here and give Woodward all or most of the credit to things that were mostly outside his control from the start of going into last season.

True. There are so many factors.
-Building a shadow staff that was able to break down game film and prepare the players and field coaches
-Analytics including the GPS system that monitored practice fatigue (Mariucci talked about players getting faster at the end of the season which is unheard of)
-Offensive overhaul and Brady
-2018 going from 112th in starting experience to top 10 in 2019
-Burrow's development
-Cregg's second season implementing his blocking system
-Getting healthy in the latter 3rd of the season
-Sleep pods
Posted by LMfan
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:20 pm to
Woodward getting credit for O's vision and hard work is pretty wack

Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28246 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:21 pm to
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Let's not get carried away here. Woodward is off to a good start but he was far from directly responsible for the football team's success the past season, he barely made it in just last year. I will give him credit for straightening out compliance SOME so far easing them off the coaches backs dealing with suspensions and being able to PICK the games instead of just doing 3 or 6 games in a row. I bet that's a clear example of Woodward's early influence.

The main result of last year's football success relied mostly on O/E going out getting Brady to transform the offense and Joe's meteoric rise as a player as well.

It's absolutely obnoxious to sit here and give Woodward all or most of the credit to things that were mostly outside his control from the start of going into last season.


Agreed 100%

There's not a whole lot of "mystery" as to how LSU was able to have such remarkable success last season. It's pretty simply to explain actually.

1. Orgeron continued the great recruiting success the program had under Miles (Miles' final class was ranked #2 overall).

2. The numerous first year starters in 2018 returned in 2019 with another year of physical maturity and, more importantly, playing experience.

3. From Orgeron, down, the coaching staff fully embraced a completely new offensive philosophy. One that allowed their 5th year senior QB to maximize his greatest abilities (football IQ, accuracy and playmaking)

It's not as if LSU was some middling program hovering around 6-6 or 7-5 each year who all of a sudden had this unexpectedly great season. It was a program that had been really, really good for over decade, but reluctant to make the final tweak necessary (new offensive philosophy) to put them in the elite tier
Posted by AaronDeTiger
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2014
1558 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:27 pm to
I think he was making that point by being sarcastic.
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