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Posted on 10/21/25 at 7:10 am to TN Tygah
quote:of course i’m happy we’ve won those championships, but let’s be honest. Except for a handful of schools, no one cares about college baseball or women’s basketball.
2 baseball championships and a women’s bball championship, really hard to say he’s the problem.
At LSU, it’s 80% football, 15% men’s basketball, and 5% everything else.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 7:13 am to biglego
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The Rant will tell you these things don’t matter
From a dollars and cents perspective? Less than zero. Both baseball and WBB lose money each year. Football and men's basketball are the only moneymakers and Woody whiffed on both.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 7:15 am to ibleedpurpleandgold.
I don’t think he should be fired, he’s a good ad as ads go, I think he just needs someone else to negotiate the contracts or be reeled in a bit there especially in regards to buyouts.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 7:35 am to TN Tygah
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At some point something’s gotta give. You can’t just tie a team down with $100M guaranteed, regardless of what happens.
Indiana just paid a guy more than one of the active coaches that has won a national title...they will only get worse.
On SW he has made some good hires but his last 2 football hires have been disasters and for that he shouldn't be able to do another one for a football coach
Posted on 10/21/25 at 7:35 am to lsupride87
He didn't fail. He made the best business decision because he knows what you said about the two sports that make the most money.
The PMAC is going to fill itself for either team as long as they are winning. It was easier to hire a sure fire dominant coach for the women's team than the men's team. Mulkey pulls in the money for the basketball side. Woodward was able to take a chance and save money with the McMahon hire. Now he's in a position to pay a small buyout and go big for the next coach he you wants
Kelly was hired to make sure the football program didn't bottom out. His track record said there was an acceptable floor for the program if you hired him. It costs money to get a coach like that to leave a program like Notre Dame. People act like LSU just ran to Kelly with a blank check. They tried to sign him for less and he said no. Football is the money maker so there is no way Woodward could take a chance on the program getting worse than it was. Now he's in position to pay the huge buyout and take a chance and save money on the next hire. He can hire a young guy with promise because the program is more stable than it was when Kelly got here.
The PMAC is going to fill itself for either team as long as they are winning. It was easier to hire a sure fire dominant coach for the women's team than the men's team. Mulkey pulls in the money for the basketball side. Woodward was able to take a chance and save money with the McMahon hire. Now he's in a position to pay a small buyout and go big for the next coach he you wants
Kelly was hired to make sure the football program didn't bottom out. His track record said there was an acceptable floor for the program if you hired him. It costs money to get a coach like that to leave a program like Notre Dame. People act like LSU just ran to Kelly with a blank check. They tried to sign him for less and he said no. Football is the money maker so there is no way Woodward could take a chance on the program getting worse than it was. Now he's in position to pay the huge buyout and take a chance and save money on the next hire. He can hire a young guy with promise because the program is more stable than it was when Kelly got here.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:39 am to 5iveEuax4eaux
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Mulkey pulls in the money for the basketball side.
You do realize women’s hoops tickets are like $6?
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:43 am to John Rambeaux
People also give Woodward grief for the Jimbo contract, but it wasn't until after he had already left A&M that their board of regents and new AD decided to extend Jimbo and increase his buyout in 2021.
If Fisher had stayed on his original contract, his buyout would've been a lot more manageable. I certainly don't think Woodward would've extended him either.
If Fisher had stayed on his original contract, his buyout would've been a lot more manageable. I certainly don't think Woodward would've extended him either.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:45 am to TN Tygah
I would love to know the inside story of LSU landing Jay Johnson.
LSU was going to eventually land an elite skipper based on the program’s gold standard.
LSU was going to eventually land an elite skipper based on the program’s gold standard.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:46 am to 5iveEuax4eaux
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Kelly was hired to make sure the football program didn't bottom out.
Wait until Saturday, then we will know if he was successful
Woody put us in a ditch when he Pellini as DC.
So far he has failed to get us out of that ditch.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:47 am to BigNastyTiger417
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Mulkey alone packs the PMac Center.
Which is nice, and Im glad womens basketball is back to competing national.
But in reality it doesnt mean anything. It will always be a non-revenue generating sport.
The only 2 that are and will be have been massive fails by Woodward.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:57 am to BigNastyTiger417
Mulkey is great. Wish she would coach the men. But In the grand scheme of important things, women’s basketball doesn’t move the needle
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:57 am to MicahTiger
Best case scenario is we get a president that tries to stop the brain bleed and restore some kind of academic standards in admissions. This is supposed to be a flagship SEC school and the last 2 presidents treated it like some SWAC shithole.
But, Landry being what he is, we'll get someone that offers no substance and makes a lot of noise about stupid shite like the 10 commandments in every classroom.
But, Landry being what he is, we'll get someone that offers no substance and makes a lot of noise about stupid shite like the 10 commandments in every classroom.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:59 am to BigBrod81
College baseball in totality is the SEC and a couple of outliers. That is not the same for college football anymore. There’s way more emphasis across the country for success in football compared to baseball and the pockets go much deeper
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:03 am to TN Tygah
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2 baseball championships and a women’s bball championship, really hard to say he’s the problem.
To be honest, BK was as safe a bet as any with his experience and track record. It’s just the contract, but that’s what it takes to land those coaches.
At some point something’s gotta give. You can’t just tie a team down with $100M guaranteed, regardless of what happens.
We’re basically banking on BK being driven to win “just cuz”… but it basically solidified LSU as a mid tier program.
Agree with this.
Baseball - homerun
Womens basketball - homerum
Football - seemed like at least a triple, proven track record coach at a high level. Almost everyone gave this hire a B+ or higher, most an A. Not sure there was a perceived "higher floor" coach out there we could've gotten. Honestly perplexing he hasn't brought us to a more consistent high level IMO. The contract is really market for a proven P4 coach these days, unfortunately. The world of coaching contracts in P4 college football is ludicrous, but we have to play the game.
Basketball - failed for sure so far, but tough situation to hire a big name coach and he has one more year to turn it around and not a huge buyout and has recruited better since the NIL funds went up.
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 9:04 am
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:12 am to ibleedpurpleandgold.
Unfortunately, the #1 job of an AD is raising funds and donor engagement, not hiring coaches.
Besides, everyone in the world thought Lincoln Riley was the can't miss candidate in that cycle.
USC wasn't in great shape, but they were not as ravaged as we were at the time, and it should have been an easier rebuild.
Riley
2022 11-3 with a heisman QB
2023 8-5
2024 7-6
2025 5-2
Overall 31-16 with a heisman
Kelly
2022 10-4
2023 10-3 with a heisman QB
2024 9-4
2025 5-2
Overall 34-13 with a heisman
Both play in big boy conferences now, but Riley's best 2 seasons were in the Pac 12.
If you say you didn't want Lincoln Riley, 99% of you are lying your asses off.
I'm no Woodward apologist, but hiring successful coaches is a crapshoot, especially in the midst of a changing landscape of college football. Think how much different college football is today than it was in 2021.
I would argue that today, football programs should be structured more like the NFL with coaches whose job it is to coach and player personnell guys who handle NIL/recruiting. Hell, let's just have a high school draft.
Besides, everyone in the world thought Lincoln Riley was the can't miss candidate in that cycle.
USC wasn't in great shape, but they were not as ravaged as we were at the time, and it should have been an easier rebuild.
Riley
2022 11-3 with a heisman QB
2023 8-5
2024 7-6
2025 5-2
Overall 31-16 with a heisman
Kelly
2022 10-4
2023 10-3 with a heisman QB
2024 9-4
2025 5-2
Overall 34-13 with a heisman
Both play in big boy conferences now, but Riley's best 2 seasons were in the Pac 12.
If you say you didn't want Lincoln Riley, 99% of you are lying your asses off.
I'm no Woodward apologist, but hiring successful coaches is a crapshoot, especially in the midst of a changing landscape of college football. Think how much different college football is today than it was in 2021.
I would argue that today, football programs should be structured more like the NFL with coaches whose job it is to coach and player personnell guys who handle NIL/recruiting. Hell, let's just have a high school draft.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:14 am to SidewalkTiger
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BK was honestly the best and safest hire at the time.
Its not the hire. Its the contract length thats the issue.
And ironically, Woodward had the benefit of seeing A&M's situation with Jimbo to see how badly a 10 year guaranteed contract can hamstring a program when things aren't going well. At least for A&M, they have much deeper pockets than LSU
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:20 am to Darth Aranda
quote:
College baseball in totality is the SEC and a couple of outliers.
This is not what you said originally in this thread.
quote:
There’s way more emphasis across the country for success in football compared to baseball and the pockets go much deeper
No one in this thread including myself is trying to argue otherwise.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:23 am to The Pirate King
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Football and men's basketball are the only moneymakers and Woody whiffed on both.
quote:
The Pirate King
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:26 am to ibleedpurpleandgold.
If Football and Basketball are sposed to the the Big 2, realize that Woody burned them both...
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