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re: Rewatching our offense with Jordan Jefferson at the helm

Posted on 5/16/20 at 9:20 am to
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
8995 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 9:20 am to
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JJ was the worst college QB I’ve ever seen at a major D1 program


Brandon Harris says hello.

It’s amazing how brutal people are toward Jefferson. And claim Lee should never have been benched. He threw two interceptions against Bama and was benched cause he was letting his nerves get to him and he didn’t follow his reads.

Jefferson was by no means a great QB. But to say he’s the worst college QB is just ignorant and unfair to him. He was better than Lee and for damn sure was better than Brandon Harris. Harris transfers to NC and he might’ve been worse there than here.
Posted by Sponge
Member since Nov 2018
3751 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 9:26 am to
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HB dive, short side option, ,long developing play action, 60 yard punt, defensive 3&out, get ball at midfield, get one 1st down, field goal

FIFY
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
7935 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 9:46 am to
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eople booed THE COACHES for changing the QB during the best season in 50 years. That 2011 team could have been all time greats.

You don’t mess with perfect seasons but Les wanted to give him reps. That moment change the dynamics of everything.

Not sure why you got the down votes but this was the truth.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22293 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 9:50 am to
Jefferson was our only option to win a 60 minute game vs Bama, and that’s all that really mattered.

Lee was given 2 opportunities in ‘11 to win the job at AL. They gave him best case scenario on both occasions. They called 1st down passes, and Lee literally threw INT’s to the only double covered WR on both plays.

Jefferson was our only chance to win, and we did. But it was never going to happen a 2nd time around. It would have had to be Mett in the NC game, which took Miles and Cameron 2 years to develop into a 3 loss season QB w 2 All Pro WRs w 1st round RB, and they had a month to install it.

The QB position and Les Miles will live in infamy.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202780 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 9:55 am to
I will agree with this however OUR punter won that game for us by putting Bama in real bad field position the whole game. Bottom line is that we had zero 1st downs in the first half againstUGA and the title game JJ made many mistakes. But this thread should be titled “JJ running the stone aged , no adjustments offense of Les Miles.
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
10535 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 10:12 am to
Les thwarted any development Jefferson, Lee, Jennings, and Harris could have made throughout their careers with his anemic scheme. I don’t blame them one bit. People that blame these kids and used to say LSU could never find a QB are just stupid. That’s like someone who has been divorced four times saying it’s always the other person.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 10:19 am to
I don’t think JJ was good, but I don’t blame him.

I blame Les for his archaic offense that didn’t give our athletes a chance to succeed.
Posted by Peepdip
Member since Aug 2016
4946 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 10:33 am to
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I wonder what people what say about you if your job was plastered on tv
I don’t think Tru Tv is going to be doing a special on oil rigs anytime soon
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
6823 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 10:39 am to
Incedible athelete soooo out of position. Tight end, safety but not qb
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3476 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 10:40 am to
You can down vote all you want, Jordan had problems.

Passing was not that good, timing was off, and he could never let the last play go; good or bad.

He had talent, I do think the coaching staff needed to do what the old Notre Dame coach did; dance lessons to teach timing.


Do not talk of play calling back in those days, that was what everyone playing back then, including Bama.

I do wonder if he would have made an outstanding wr.


He is no where near the worst we had at Qb, just a serviceable middle of the pack qb.
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 10:42 am
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
76471 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 10:49 am to
Jefferson suffered in a severely restrained offense. It was all Miles.

The offense looked better in 2011 against cupcakes with Lee, so it fostered an artificial controversy.

Jefferson couldn't throw with touch. Lee floated too many off his back foot. Jefferson had a painfully slow release. Lee got scared in the pocket.

The only reason Jefferson kept getting the nod over Lee is his ability to run when the play broke down. And with the terrible offense Miles established, the play was inevitably going to break down.

Neither QB had any business leading this team. Blame Perrilloux for that.

After Lee's abysmal 08 Freshman year, Miles got scared and handcuffed the offense. He also hid Lee, which probably broke the kid psychologically.It was apparently a philosophy change that he couldn't shake.

Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 10:59 am to
Garbage with a bad attitude.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7189 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:01 am to
I think he had potential to be better. The play calling did smell. They continually called passing plays he was not very good at.
Posted by 5Alive
With Your Moms
Member since Jul 2009
7659 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:12 am to
Oh so Tyrann didn’t get himself in trouble huh? Wow just wow
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30601 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:15 am to
Les Miles was the problem. Jefferson would have been better under last year’s offense.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30179 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:17 am to
We were all having a good day
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29402 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:20 am to
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JJ was the worst college QB I’ve ever seen at a major D1 program. He was invited to the NFL combine and was graded not only the worst QB there, but the worst PLAYER rating overall.

This post was edited on 5/16 at 7:47 am




He wasn't invited to the combine to be evaluated, he was brought in to throw to the wrs. He didn't workout with the qbs or anyone else.

Brandon Harris was way better then Jefferson, but anthony Jennings is the worst of all, by far.
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4059 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:21 am to
Our offense was basically Notre Dame circa Tony Rice.

Sheesh, Miles was so inept on offense.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:25 am to
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offense. He also hid Lee, which probably broke the kid psychologically.It was apparently a philosophy change that he couldn't shake.
really, Lee was psychologically broken? He had a very good senior year in 2011:

104-167
62.3%
1306 yards
7.8 ypa
14 TD
3 INT
152.0 rating (best in the SEC)
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4617 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:37 am to
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He was booed in Tiger Stadium


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OMG so fricking false!


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People booed THE COACHES for changing the QB


I think you are really splitting hairs
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