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re: Rewatching our offense with Jordan Jefferson at the helm
Posted on 5/16/20 at 2:58 pm to Elleshoe
Posted on 5/16/20 at 2:58 pm to Elleshoe
Oh yeah. And would they have even gotten that talent?
Archer's entire gameplan was Hodson to Davis.
Gerry's deal was being underestimated. Once guys started to respect him, he got corrected. He was far too loyal to assistants, too.
Les' downfall was stubborness, plain and simple.
Archer's entire gameplan was Hodson to Davis.
Gerry's deal was being underestimated. Once guys started to respect him, he got corrected. He was far too loyal to assistants, too.
Les' downfall was stubborness, plain and simple.
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Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:03 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
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People booed THE COACHES for changing the QB during the best season in 50 years.
Which was stupid because if Lee stays as the QB against Bama in Tuscaloosa, we lose that game.
Both QB's sucked arse, but Jefferson was better than Lee.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:12 pm to Roaad
quote:try again:
es. Yes he was.
Stats padded against cupcakes. Hell, iirc 75% of his throws were behing the los. Against good teams, he played terribly.
Lee's game logs from 2011:
Alabama 3-7; 42.9%; 24 yards; 0 TD; 2 INT
Auburn 14-20; 70.0%; 165 yards; 2 TD; 0 INT
Florida 7-10; 70.0%; 154 yards; 1 TD; 0 INT
Kentucky 8-21; 38.1%; 169 yards; 1 TD; 0 INT
Mississippi 1-1; 100% 17 yards; 0 TD; 0 INT
Miss State 21-27; 77.8%; 213 yards; 1 TD; 1 INT
NW State 9-10; 90.0%; 133 yards; 1 TD; 0 INT
Oregon 10-22; 45.5%; 98 yards; 1 TD; 0 INT
Tennessee 13-17; 76.5%; 138 yards; 3 TD; 0 INT
W. Virginia 16-28; 57.1%; 180 yards; 3 TD; 0 INT
W. Kentucky 2-4; 50.0%; 15 yards; 1 TD; 0 INT
Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:15 pm to Kester5144
Yeah, its hard to watch. He just had zero touch on his passes.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:30 pm to Broski
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Which was stupid because if Lee stays as the QB against Bama in Tuscaloosa, we lose that game.
Repeating this thousands of times doesn't make it true.
Sure. We lucked out a bit in that Bama didn't plan for the option. Even then, we had ONE good drive that game with Jefferson. The first one. After that, meh, Bama figured it out.
But for frick's sake. The offense absolutely STUNK with JJ in there against Bama. I mean frick, we scored 9 points! LOL
And, you guys all act like no QB in history has ever started off a game poorly and finished OK.
But even if one says, "yep, JL was rough and you had to go with JJ"...………..that doesn't remotely explain how from there forward, there was literally no level of JJ incompetence that created the same urgency.
Regardless. As I said. At this point, I think both JJ and JL got a raw deal from fans. Neither was NFL caliber, but, their common denominator deserves the real blame.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:33 pm to Roaad
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I am not defending Jordan, or propping him up at all. But this Uncle Rico attitude of "If coach had just put Lee in, we coulda won state!" has to stop.
No one thinks we WOULD have won.
What they say is, "it's the fricking national title game and your weapon is jammed...…….try another fricking weapon"
Maybe JL would have gone in and lost too. Hell, frankly, that's probable. We couldn't run against Bama at all in either outing other than catching them a little off guard the first time with the option.
But, we didn't even fricking try. For that, Miles should be made fun of for the rest of his fricking life.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:48 pm to Kester5144
Worst regular starting QB of my lifetime watching LSU (late 70s) and it’s not really close.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 3:57 pm to Elleshoe
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I do agree with this. Les may have been the second worst coach in LSU history behind Curly Hallman
Less basically thought (I'm skeptical how much thinking he was capable of doing) he could just put out a more talented team than whoever we were playing and win by default. The program was basically at a point where it recruited itself (unlike in the 80s or 90s), so I don't want to hear anything about him "a good recruiter."
Posted on 5/16/20 at 4:06 pm to bfniii
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Rickey was also one of the worst multi year starters in sec history
Rickey was a work day player and did well at his position, maybe not all world, but a very good player.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 4:09 pm to Roaad
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Archer's entire gameplan was Hodson to Davis.
Let us just say, maybe a good idea to go back and watch the those games again.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 4:19 pm to km
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Run, run, delay of game, sack, punt
The delay of game has to be preceded by a timeout
Posted on 5/16/20 at 4:35 pm to TDcline
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I will say that I don’t have no personal issues with JJ
So you have personal issues with JJ?
Posted on 5/16/20 at 4:37 pm to Strannix
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HB dive, short side option, ,long developing play action, punt lol
You forgot the bubble screen, the false start, and the holding call.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 4:50 pm to ShortyRob
quote:correct.
But, we didn't even fricking try. For that, Miles should be made fun of for the rest of his fricking life
It’s not that we lost, it’s HOW Les lost. A horrible game plan and his refusal to try anything different in-game to light a spark.
If he put in Jarrett Lee, or Mett, do we score any fewer points?
Posted on 5/16/20 at 4:56 pm to lsu711
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Jordan Jefferson is a great Tiger
Jordan...
Rickey...
Justin...
Posted on 5/16/20 at 4:58 pm to atltiger6487
"Durr this option play that caught Bama off guard a few times in the first game will obviously dominate in a rematch two months later!" It's just mind-boggling that one of the top programs in the country had such a blithering idiot for a coach for over a decade. Maybe he does have Alzheimer's or dementia, Alleva wouldn't have had the spine to ask him to see a neuropsychologist though
Posted on 5/16/20 at 5:33 pm to atltiger6487
quote:Every team Lee started against lost 5 or more games, except 3.
Lee's game logs from 2011:
Against those 3, he played well in one, meh in one, shithouse awful in one.
Jordan Jefferson started against 3 teams with less than 5 losses.
Against those 3, he played well in one, meh in one, shithouse awful in one.
Jefferson numbers weren't that much off from Lee's, considering JJ was used less. . .and was suspended to start the year.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 6:00 pm to Roaad
Jefferson was awful against UGA and Bama. We had more points than passing yards in Atlanta. We probably wouldn't beaten Bama with JL, but I'm thinking we score
Posted on 5/16/20 at 6:25 pm to atltiger6487
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A horrible game plan
Yeah
The fact that he showed up that day with the SAME EXACT offensive game plan as what worked for ONE frickING DRIVE in the prior game...……..was so stupid that frankly, people in Vegas should have been looking around for the fix being in.
quote:
If he put in Jarrett Lee, or Mett, do we score any fewer points?
I mean...…..a few years later...…...Saban sat a fricking TWO YEAR STARTER for a goddamned true Freshman cause things were going poorly.
I know it drives Miles crotch riders nuts but Miles deserves every ounce of hatred heaped upon him.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 6:28 pm to Mithridates6
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"Durr this option play that caught Bama off guard a few times in the first game will obviously dominate in a rematch two months later!"
Honestly, it was so stupid...…...that despite reaching the fricking title game, it was almost an offense worth getting fired over.
That decision alone told you how dumb the man really was when it came to football.
Saban must have been on the sidelines in absolute stunned silence.
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