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re: Rewatching our offense with Jordan Jefferson at the helm

Posted on 5/16/20 at 7:49 am to
Posted by griswold
Member since Oct 2009
4043 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 7:49 am to
Rewatched the 2011 Oregon game a few days ago on SECN. That offense was awful to watch. I hope LSU never goes back to anything resembling that.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 7:52 am to
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Maybe at another position but not at quarterback. He was a fine athlete.


He wasn’t the runner he ended up being when he got to LSU. He was listed as a pro style QB when recruited not a dual threat.

I give JJ a ton of credit for realizing that he was just an ok passer of the football at this level and he ended up being a very good running qb by the end of his career.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 7:56 am to
I agree he had little help especially from the offensive scheme.

But he also was wildly inaccurate at times and made bad decisions.

That said, he wasn’t as bad as some here remember. Unfortunately he will be remembered for that last game on 1/9/12. He and Les were awful that night.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
11975 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 7:56 am to
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Thankfully, there were enough supporters to overcome you.


Anyone who bashes a QB who played for Miles, Dinardo or Hallman needs to reevaluate their criteria.
Think about it.
Howard, Booty, Davey, Nall,Lee, Jefferson, Jennings, Harris.
All those guys were highly rated recruits.
The only ones who lived up to their recruit ratings were Booty and Davey who were developed by Saban and Fisher.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 7:59 am to
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The play calling is on the level of the rest of the SEC at that time.




No, just no
Posted by MGP
Louisiana
Member since May 2014
358 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:13 am to
Posted by vince vega
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2014
656 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:32 am to
Jordan's biggest problem was throwing with anticipation; he truly had to see the receiver open before he could throw it

Lee's biggest problem was honestly, he freaked out if rushers got near him, like when jim everett became chris everett; that's why he sucked against bama and why Les never trusted him again; borderline cowardice
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56254 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:36 am to
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I think he had the potential to be a really good player. Man, it was tough watching alp the max protect with 2 routes to choose from. Then 4 wide, nobody open, and no protection. Just brutal what some of these quarterbacks had to put up with.


Why are we such a dramatic bunch, the offense could have been better...but neither Lee nor Jefferson nor Jennings nor Harris were ever going to be really good quarterbacks...period. The offense was too dependent on good QB play an decisions, so when we didn't get that they went too conservative to manage the games and win...which they did. It was ugly, infuriating, but also for the most part effective.

Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202829 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:51 am to
He is/was not as good as you think.
Posted by Jeauxseph
Merica...F**K Yeah
Member since Jan 2011
443 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:52 am to
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Rewatching our offense with Jordan Jefferson at the helm


Why would you do this to yourself?
Posted by LSU_30A
Member since Jan 2019
2921 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:52 am to
JJ was not a good enough passer with the offense we ran. If they would have put more quick short passes he could have been better but it was always run, run, play action pass downfield. Jarret Lee would have been in heaven with our current offense and one if the best QB in the SEC.
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 9:00 am to
JJ was not a good QB but Les loved him some JJ! I am glad they are both gone!
Posted by LosTigres251
Plano
Member since Mar 2018
1592 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 9:02 am to
Jefferson was a winner. He was a limited QB, but made some huge throws when it counted the most. He gets zero credit for his pocket awareness and play making ability especially on 3rd down, both with his legs and arm.
Accuracy and anticipation were not his strong points but he was a better player than most want to believe.

He won the Game of the Century in Gumpville against that great team and coach.

This post was edited on 5/20/20 at 8:16 am
Posted by Stretch Suba
Member since Jun 2019
1300 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 9:02 am to
Jefferson had little to no help considering the offense he was given to run. But he was an inaccurate passer. It was frustrating to watch play calls that continually asked him to throw from one hash mark to the opposite sideline.

He would have been better suited as a wildcat QB because of his athleticism. But he was not a good passer. Don’t sugarcoat that.
Posted by LCTFAN
New Iberia
Member since Mar 2013
2738 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 9:05 am to
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Kester5144

Rewatching our offense with Jordan Jefferson at the helm
This guy basically had very little help. The playcalling was bad,


He was athletic and yes would have been better in our offense last year. He did not have the decision skills of Burrow, there was a post recently in which Burrow was the quickest decision maker from last years class for QB's entering the draft
Posted by SOCAL TIGER
SOCAL
Member since Jan 2005
10722 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 9:11 am to
He was not a very good QB. Plain and simple!
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45114 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 9:15 am to
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t JJ was the worst college QB I’ve ever seen at a major D1 program


You are obviously too young to have seen Freddie Kitchens at Alabama.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45114 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 9:17 am to
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He was not a very good QB. Plain and simple!


He wasn't but I have always thought that if he had proper coaching while at LSU he could have been serviceable. lets face it. Les and company didn't do him any favors. They didn't put him in a position so his success or lack there of was on him.
Posted by LosTigres251
Plano
Member since Mar 2018
1592 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 9:20 am to
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He was not a very good QB. Plain and simple!

Ok have it your way.

Jefferson threw for 4,733 yards and 34 touchdowns during his career. He ranks fifth for career wins by a starting quarterback at LSU with 24. He is fifth in LSU history in passing touchdowns (34) and rushing touchdowns by a quarterback (12). He is sixth in LSU history in career passing yards (4,733), sixth in completion percentage (58.7), sixth in career completions (398), and sixth in attempts (678).

Jefferson holds the LSU record for rushing yards by a quarterback with 1,018 yards. Jefferson’s ability to run the ball forced opposing defenses to account for him which allowed LSU to defeat opponents through its rushing attack. LSU’s emphasis on its ground game coupled with Jefferson sharing time with Jarrett Lee reduced Jefferson’s passing yardage. Thus, Jefferson threw for less than 100 yards in 11 games, or 34% of all games he started.[7] However, of those 11 games, LSU only lost 3 games.
Jefferson was the youngest starting quarterback in the SEC and the youngest to start a season-opener for LSU since Y. A. Tittle in 1945.
2008 Chick-fil-A Bowl of which he was the offensive MVP in a 38–3 win over Georgia Tech.
Jefferson led the Tigers to a 10–2 record in the regular season and beat the Texas A&M Aggies in the 2011 Cotton Bowl Classic with a final score of 41–24. In that game, Jefferson threw for 158 yards and 3 touchdowns. He also rushed for 67 yards and 1 touchdown.Jefferson threw a key pass to running back Stevan Ridley in the LSU game with Alabama on November 6. The Tigers prevailed over the Crimson Tide, 24-21.


This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 9:25 am
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45114 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 9:20 am to
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The LSU defense and Alabama kickers are the only reason we won in 2011


Plus Bama was for whatever reason totally unprepared for Jefferson coming in and running the option.
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