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re: Proposed CFP solution
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:13 am to RizerJ
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:13 am to RizerJ
The solution is simple.
Rankings, whether by computer or people, should NEVER determine who makes the playoffs.
There should be a B10 east, west, central division and a SEC east, west, central division. Big12 needs 2 divisions as well as the ACC. frick you Notre Dame, join a conference.
Division winners get in automatically.
For the B10 and SEC there are 6 team divisions, each division plays their 5 divisional games every year, and then match up with another division. For instance the B10 east would play each other, and then play the B10 central. 11 game conference schedule, and one game against whoever you want that doesn't really count (OOC rivalry). The next year that B10 east plays each other then plays the B10 west. The next year that B10 east plays each other then plays an SEC division (same 6 team divisions and format in SEC).
So you always play your division, then you rotate each year playing the other two conference divisions and then 1 cross conference division, then back to the 2 conference divisions and then the cross conference division.
So every B10 and SEC school will play each other once every 9 years, and there's always a B10/SEC division matchup each year.
That should make for interesting television, and keeps division schedules equal. Win your division and you're in. simple as that.
We'd have 3 B10, 3 SEC, 2 ACC and 2 Big12 teams in the playoff. The 4 lowest ranked teams play a "play in" game and then we have a 8 team playoff.
In this scenario, the money to each conference for the playoffs is always the same, and the regular season means something OSU and Michigan matters more b/c the loser isn't making the playoffs.
Maybe you could do a consolation playoff of 8 teams, 2 from each conference (highest ranked that didn't win division). There should be financial benefits of winning this for the players of the winning team.
G5 needs there own playoff with auto qualifiers.
Rankings, whether by computer or people, should NEVER determine who makes the playoffs.
There should be a B10 east, west, central division and a SEC east, west, central division. Big12 needs 2 divisions as well as the ACC. frick you Notre Dame, join a conference.
Division winners get in automatically.
For the B10 and SEC there are 6 team divisions, each division plays their 5 divisional games every year, and then match up with another division. For instance the B10 east would play each other, and then play the B10 central. 11 game conference schedule, and one game against whoever you want that doesn't really count (OOC rivalry). The next year that B10 east plays each other then plays the B10 west. The next year that B10 east plays each other then plays an SEC division (same 6 team divisions and format in SEC).
So you always play your division, then you rotate each year playing the other two conference divisions and then 1 cross conference division, then back to the 2 conference divisions and then the cross conference division.
So every B10 and SEC school will play each other once every 9 years, and there's always a B10/SEC division matchup each year.
That should make for interesting television, and keeps division schedules equal. Win your division and you're in. simple as that.
We'd have 3 B10, 3 SEC, 2 ACC and 2 Big12 teams in the playoff. The 4 lowest ranked teams play a "play in" game and then we have a 8 team playoff.
In this scenario, the money to each conference for the playoffs is always the same, and the regular season means something OSU and Michigan matters more b/c the loser isn't making the playoffs.
Maybe you could do a consolation playoff of 8 teams, 2 from each conference (highest ranked that didn't win division). There should be financial benefits of winning this for the players of the winning team.
G5 needs there own playoff with auto qualifiers.
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:16 am to Pelican fan99
Just imagine how sweet it would be for ULM to have a great 5-7 year then somehow luck their way to a NC
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:37 am to Pelican fan99
Here's 2025 simulated BCS rankings. They'd still be in playing A&M.
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 9:38 am
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:02 am to Jack Daniel
Why would I want to watch those games. I’m saying there should be less teams in the playoffs there is not even 12 teams worthy of playing for a title, why would I want to see more teams? Why would I want to see some 7-5 team play round 1 of a 32 team playoff. Awful idea
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:04 am to Pelican fan99
quote:
A 32 team playoff?
Yeah I've got no desire to watch North Texas get blasted by Ohio State.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:21 am to RizerJ
Make it 16 teams and I think it is coming.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:26 am to AaronDeTiger
Interesting. So the only real differences were the Notre Dame/Miami decision and the 9-12 seeding. The committee did a damn fine job; I think giving the nod to Miami as the h2h winner was the right thing to do.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:27 am to RizerJ
The ONLY reason I see it expanding to potentially 16 or a greater number of teams is due to bowl sponsors. If Bowl games aren't in playoff contention, most are starting to skip or sit them out. They will eventually put pressure on the NCAA/League commissioners to fix this problem or they will pull their financial support. It will keep more players from opting out and generates more revenue for the teams/sport.
Every decision is driven by money, any solution that is reasonable will have to follow the money. You aren't just cancelling CCG without a replacement for those funds.
Every decision is driven by money, any solution that is reasonable will have to follow the money. You aren't just cancelling CCG without a replacement for those funds.
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 10:28 am
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:27 am to fallguy_1978
quote:
Yeah I've got no desire to watch North Texas get blasted by Ohio State.
We get to see these games already. It’s called weeks 1-2 of the season and, in the SEC, the next to last week.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:32 am to RizerJ
The bowls, outside of the playoffs, are only around as long as ESPN wants them. It is cheap broadcasting material for them. Other than that there is no reason to have them stick around (sorry Shreveport). We definitely do not want more non deserving teams in a playoff. We are already at too many. Regular season games and conference championships should matter.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:37 am to dmatt2021
Because a playoff game with meaning is better to watch than playing Southeastern mid-season.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:42 am to EastWestConnection
quote:
just rank the teams with the BCS computers
The CFP Committee rankings and the BCS simulated rankings almost always line up in the top 4 and generally line up in the top 12 if you eliminate the automatic bids, though the order may change a small bit.
CFP ranking (Teams in bold replaced by automatic bids))
1. Indiana Hoosiers (13-0)
2. Ohio State Buckeyes (12-1)
3. Georgia Bulldogs (12-1)
4. Texas Tech Red Raiders (12-1)
5. Oregon Ducks (11-1)
6. Ole Miss Rebels (11-1)
7. Texas A&M Aggies (11-1)
8. Oklahoma Sooners (10-2)
9. Alabama Crimson Tide (10-3)
10. Miami Hurricanes (10-2)
11. Notre Dame Fighting Irish (10-2)
12. BYU Cougars (11-2)
BCS simulation (Bold are the differences in rankings
1. Indiana Hoosiers (13-0)
2. Ohio State Buckeyes (12-1)
3. Georgia Bulldogs (12-1)
4. Texas Tech Red Raiders (12-1)
5. Oregon Ducks (11-1)
6. Ole Miss Rebels (11-1)
7. Texas A&M Aggies (11-1)
8. Oklahoma Sooners (10-2)
9. Notre Dame Fighting Irish (10-2)
10. Alabama Crimson Tide (10-3)
11. Miami Hurricanes (10-2)
12. BYU Cougars (11-2)
Under the BCS scenario, if you have the automatic conference bids, ND is in, and Miami is out. Even though Miami beat Notre Dame and they have the same record. Without the automatic bids, the field is identical; some of the matchups change.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:47 am to Pelican fan99
quote:
A 32 team playoff?
Yes let's have a team that couldn't even crack the top 25 compete for a championship
NCAA Men's Basketball already does this and then some....
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:52 am to Nutriaitch
quote:
appoint me Czar-Emperor over the entire sport. each year I decide how many teams get in based on how the season played out. this year, only 7 get in. Indiana gets a first round bye #6 Ole Miss plays #3 Georgia #5 Oregon plays #4 Texas Tech #7 A&M plays #2 Ohio State Round 2 #1 Indiana vs worst remaining seed after round 1 other 2 winners play each other. Championship Game last 2 remain teams.
This is honestly the best solution but would never happen.
Every years different. If it were olden times a national championship would already be named for this season and there’d be a clear consensus on #1 Indiana. Then everyone with a brain that follows cfb knows neither team in the #8 OU/#9 Bama matchup are actually any good so a top 7 is the only fair outcome for this season
Posted on 12/8/25 at 12:12 pm to Jack Daniel
And a regular season where LSU vs Bama, Bama vs Auburn, Ole Miss vs LSU, that means absolutely dick totally ruins what college football is about. The 12 team has destroyed enough of it, we don’t need to make it even worse. College is great because it isn’t the NFL so why in the world would we want to make it worse than the NFL. It’s obviously stuck at 12 teams or more so if it gets tweaked leave the top 8 alone and have 8 teams do a play in round and then the 12 team playoffs starts after that. Eliminate conference championship games and do it that week. I don’t like any of it but I rather that then 32 teams with half of them being absolute shite.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 12:24 pm to RizerJ
1. Deconsolidate super conferences back to no larger than 12 teams.
2. Play bowl games based on traditional tie ins.
3. Seed playoff from top 8 bowl winners.
2. Play bowl games based on traditional tie ins.
3. Seed playoff from top 8 bowl winners.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 2:39 pm to tigeraddict
quote:Basketball is nothing like football. You don't need 5 playoff games to determine a champion. The first rounds would be a seriously garbage product
NCAA Men's Basketball already does this and then some....
Posted on 12/8/25 at 2:46 pm to RizerJ
Does anyone think that no matter the number of teams, the next four are going to complain about being left out? If it's a 12-team playoff, then 13-16 complain. If it's a 16-team playoff, then 17-20 complain.
Would it be fair to have a play-in game/games involving the bottom 2 or 4 teams, similar to the NCAA Basketball Tournament? Granted, that's an extra game for those teams. You could have your G5s play (Tulane vs James Madison) for the 12th seed and your last 2 P4s play or your last P4 vs an at-large champion (similar to Duke this season).
I don't know that anything is perfect. I just know I'm underwhelmed by two rematches, and the Oregon-James Madison game could be extremely lopsided.
Would it be fair to have a play-in game/games involving the bottom 2 or 4 teams, similar to the NCAA Basketball Tournament? Granted, that's an extra game for those teams. You could have your G5s play (Tulane vs James Madison) for the 12th seed and your last 2 P4s play or your last P4 vs an at-large champion (similar to Duke this season).
I don't know that anything is perfect. I just know I'm underwhelmed by two rematches, and the Oregon-James Madison game could be extremely lopsided.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 2:52 pm to RizerJ
We don’t need more teams. Most teams don’t belong. It just makes the season drag on during recruiting season. Make the conference championship games a battle for a bye. Loser plays 1st round as long as they are ranked in the top 12 before the conference championship game.
Then make the tiebreakers better. Bama shouldn’t have played Georgia. They had the worst overall record of the teams. Make it highest ranked or best record overall.
Then make the tiebreakers better. Bama shouldn’t have played Georgia. They had the worst overall record of the teams. Make it highest ranked or best record overall.
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