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re: President of NCAA proposes NIL rule change

Posted on 12/5/23 at 11:37 am to
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 11:37 am to
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That would allow schools to directly pay athletes




Won't be any frickery done by the schools on this? Another layer of bureaucratic bullshite.



I say drop NIL, if these kids want to play for their education, good, if not, MacDonald's is hiring.
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
3275 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 11:39 am to
It would actually make the playing field more even. Schools can pay players easier than begging boosters. Also being employees means you can place restrictions on NIL and such with contracts.
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
3275 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 11:41 am to
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because you have a ton of money doesn't mean you automatically go to the front of the line with regards to success.


Doesn't guarantee, but does give you huge advantage. See our defense. See Texas.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 11:49 am to
NCAA trying to grow itself before it's gone.
Posted by LSUSlidell23
Member since Oct 2023
227 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 11:54 am to
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I'm in favor of paying athletes but there needs to be a cap on earnings so that the schools with the most money aren't hoarding all the players.


Didn't that happen for years with recruiting?
Same thing only athelets are getting paid
Posted by TIGRLEE
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 11:55 am to
Are you stupid on purpose?
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18146 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 12:24 pm to
college ball is quickly turning into (or has already turned into) pro ball. And I hate pro football.

My interest level the last couple years has faded.

A great game is being destroyed before our very eyes.
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
7479 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 12:34 pm to
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Title IX states that:

No person in the United States shall be excluded from participation in, denied the benefits of, or subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance.

Sex discrimination includes pregnancy, sexual orientation, and gender identity.

Schools must protect students from sex-based harassment and sexual violence.

Title IX requires nearly all colleges and high schools to provide equitable treatment to athletes in three broad categories: Participation opportunities, Scholarships, Other benefits.


I can't see how Universities can offer more NIL money to certain groups. It has to be equal. I don't see this one working out. Now, university booster clubs should be able to say "we're not the university", but I'm sure it'll be challenge in court.

Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 12:41 pm to
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This is bigger than anything being talked about in sports, flying under the radar… would be the nail in CFB coffin & almost certainly buries LSU in short order.


To do this they would have to have a salary cap for equity. Otherwise the sport is ruined.


Another point is somewhere along the line boosters are going to get tired of paying players for poor results and then the compensation model collapses. In other words, suppose I have a $40 mil payroll and take in $140 mil to the program which in turn funds university non revenue sports. If you take in the same amount of revenue whether you win a trophy or not there are many who will tire of this and donate their money to concrete projects
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 1:07 pm to
Free agency without a salary cap...what could go wrong?!
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
1909 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 1:24 pm to
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Free agency without a salary cap...what could go wrong?!


The NFL salary cap does not apply to NIL deals pro players sign. In other words, Patrick Mahomes' money from State Farm doesn't affect the Chief's salary cap in any way.

There is already a type of salary cap in NCAA athletics. It's just that NIL has become more important, and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

GEAUX TIGERS!
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 1:24 pm to
Harvard has the money to purchase the KC Chiefs' entire roster.
Posted by MildManneredMadness
Member since Mar 2022
384 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 2:00 pm to
I don’t like the idea. If this happens then there should be a cap on all programs to maintain competitive play. But if this is implemented LSU would still be a top tier program.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64407 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 2:11 pm to
If the schools pay them can they then join a union?
Posted by mikesliveisacheater
Member since Nov 2009
353 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 2:23 pm to
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There's a lot about Baker's proposal that has not been fleshed out. The article says the proposal would demand that schools make equal NIL investments in mens and womens sports. Still too early to tell if something like this would have any legs.


Yeah, that part seems like a dagger to any non revenue sports. I could see LSU cutting everything but men's football, baseball, and basketball. And having only women's basketball, softball, and gymnastics. They might also keep track and field for both.

But then you're still overpaying the female athletes in those sports or being left behind in men's sports.

There is a reason why the Women's National Soccer team won a World Cup and still got paid less than the men's team that missed the World Cup that same cycle. Nobody wants to pay as much to watch women's sports. It's not very profitable. Title IX is a socialist idea and NIL is a capitalist idea and they mix together about as well as oil and water.
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 2:32 pm to
NIL went off the rails and became free agency (which was totally predictable btw) how can we make it even worse?

Oh, I know

quote:

allow schools to directly pay athletes
Posted by LSUminati
Member since Jan 2017
3374 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 2:35 pm to
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Have you looked at athletic department budgets?


People in this thread are acting like schools would be paying out of their endowments

If anything, this is better for LSU than the current landscape. TAF is on par with every major program.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64686 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 2:40 pm to
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Same thing only athelets are getting paid


And all the administration it will take to control it getting paid from some where.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36077 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 3:01 pm to
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People in this thread are acting like schools would be paying out of their endowments If anything, this is better for LSU than the current landscape. TAF is on par with every major program.


Our athletic department budget in 2023 was sixth largest in the nation. We are in the SEC. We aren’t poor.
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 3:56 pm
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2298 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 3:20 pm to
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LSU has the 6th most profitable athletic department in the country. 3rd in the SEC behind only Texas and Alabama. If anything, this would help LSU. It would allow that TAF money to go directly to players instead of having to be rerouted through bull shite marketing deals.

If TAF is redirected, LSU will thrive. Also, from what I understand, female athletes must be matched dollar for dollar. If you pay a football player 1 million, that much must go in the female athlete pot. Gonna cause some of theses top programs heartburn.
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