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re: President of NCAA proposes NIL rule change
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:08 pm to YMCA
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:08 pm to YMCA
quote:If graduate students who are teaching classes at a university are still paying because tuition and fees are higher than their stipend, then you absolutely should make athletes with tenuous connections to the university at best pay their own way. Whether that happens or not remains to be seen.
If they’re getting paid directly from the school, do you make them pay their own way?
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 8:11 pm
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:10 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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That would allow schools to directly pay athletes…
Will this mean half the budget goes toward women’s sports?
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:13 pm to DeathByTossDive225
We, along with all the other big schools, have been paying players for DECADES.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:18 pm to Pax Regis
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Death of college football. I’d quit watching. Might as well just watch the NFL.
This was inevitable though. Let’s just call it what it is. It’s a semi pro league. Might as well regulate it instead of open the door for loopholes for teams to pay as much money as they want.
If colleges are allowed to pay there will be an eventual salary cap, which is inevitable. LSU cares way too much about football, they will be able to match that and it will be about recruiting and coaching.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:29 pm to ThePoo
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NIL went off the rails and became free agency
NIL did not create free agency. That was the portal. The NCAA is well within their rights to change the bylaws and kill the portal altogether. They could eliminate transfers of any kind, thus ending "free agency".
What they can not do is limit NIL payments in any way. Which is why this "proposal" doesn't, nor can it, throttle down NIL in any way. It would only allow schools to add directly to the NIL trough.
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:49 pm to Lsuhoohoo
quote:
That would make them employees, yes? Kind of throws out the "student athlete" moniker. Are they state employees? TAF employees? Independent contractors? Is going to class a condition of employment?
Are we pretending that there aren’t already students employed by the university?
Is there something that changes the word “student” once they are paid in the same way that numerous other students are paid?
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:51 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
From an article I read, this was a way for them to level the playing field between men and women collegiate Athletes. The nil was started so they can get a fair market value for use of their name and advertising purposes. The NCAA should not get involved with making it fair on every sport across the board whether it's men's basketball versus men's baseball are women's basketball versus men's basketball. You get what the advertisement dollar is.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:56 pm to TN Tygah
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Might as well regulate it instead of open the door for loopholes for teams to pay as much money as they want.
NIL is the loophole and this does nothing to change that. You nor me nor the NCAA can regulate NIL. The US Supreme Court has already ruled on that. This proposal would only guarantee another $30K per athlete be added to the NIL trough. And oh, half of that new trough money would very likely be off-limits to anyone with a penis, as the US Supreme Court has ruled on that as well.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:52 pm to DeathByTossDive225
They have to put a cap on it or it will spiral totally out of control.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 10:33 pm to DeathByTossDive225
And the State funded schools around the country are expected to fund their scholarships? I know LSU Athletics covers the student tuition and fees, but I am referring to the smaller schools. Most athletic departments are not stand alone entities like LSU.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 12:36 am to DeathByTossDive225
This wouldn’t work well. They woukd want to set limits each school woukd pay and ir woukd lead to paying recruits under the table to sign like it used to be. Back to the old deal and now the school has to pay a salary besides.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 11:22 am to Basura Blanco
quote:The portal rules being changed is a large contributing factor
NIL did not create free agency
but being able to openly pay for play most certainly is a major contributor to college free agency. What is going on with the portal is no different than what is going on with recruiting. If the portal did not exist, boosters would still being sending out their offers and recruits would still be going to highest bidder, that is free agency. NFL draftees don't even get the luxury of picking their first time
quote:Problem 1 is we are calling it NIL when it is not. There are contracts set in place for players before the player's name, image, or likeness is even known. It is not NIL it is pay for play. You would not be throttling NIL you would be throttling pay for play, which technically should be relinquishing amateur status. College football is now a professional league by almost any metric
What they can not do is limit NIL payments in any way
But once you give beyond the line, the option to retreat behind it no longer exists unless you want to get really litigious with no guaranty of winning
Posted on 12/6/23 at 5:52 pm to doubleb
All major professional sports have a salary cap…nfl, nba. Perhaps not for any particular player, but for the team. Sure there will be cheating, like before…but I think that’s the idea.
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