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re: Pete Thamel weighs in on the state of the program
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:39 am to whitefoot
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:39 am to whitefoot
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It sure doesn't. It's quite a contrast from the last couple of years of Miles when national pundits and former players/coaches were railing LSU for even thinking of firing Miles.
Miles came across as a likable guy. Your “goofy old uncle” type of guy. Orgeron, especially since 2019, has come across as a dick.
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Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:45 am to BilJ
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even the national guys aren't playing the "OMG he just won a national title card"
You will hear it if things get serious. And it will come from those that wish mediocrity on LSU.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:47 am to Mobiletiggah
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At Alabama, Saban wasn’t successful early
his SECOND season there he went 12-0 and was ranked #1 going into the SECCG and he won the title in year 3,
This post was edited on 10/5/21 at 11:48 am
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:49 am to Relham10
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Basically saying, this will get ugly on and off the field before this is over and we get to fully turn the page from this chapter.
Not really. If it's mutually assured destruction, then that makes it easy for them to sit down at the negotiating table and negotiate a buyout. Ed will get some but not all of what he owes and LSU will not get off scot free.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:51 am to BilJ
He needs to just go away.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:55 am to Woodman
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Burrow didn’t help LSU with his Heisman speech as concerns hoping LSU would give Orgeron a lifetime contract.
True, but consider the emotions at the moment.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:00 pm to penman
What about Chris Petersen?
Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:02 pm to BilJ
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How good is the LSU job? Both Les Miles and Orgeron, the last two coaches, have won national titles there. And there aren’t a lot of coaches who respect Miles or Orgeron as strategists or leaders. Big characters? Sure. One chews grass and the other runs through campus with his shirt off. Big personalities, definitely. Few are more fun to do impressions of.
Translation: If these two dunderheads can win national championships at LSU, imagine what a REAL coach can do!
Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:04 pm to BilJ
I do not want Brian "the screamer" Kelly. No thanks.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:04 pm to BilJ
Once again LSU gave another thru the roof contract to a coach that wouldn't even be mentioned for another top job had it opened. Now have to find a way to lower buyout. You would think LSU would learn. That Pelini contract was buy far the worse. O's contract is looking pretty bad now since he basically won it with great assistants. Aranda and Brandy will go down as probably top 5 assistants ever at LSU. To Bad O couldnt follow his own rule of bringing in only top assistants.
This post was edited on 10/5/21 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:09 pm to DiamondDog
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If I'm putting $100 on someone today, I'm going to tell you someone you're not suspecting...Brian Kelly.
For the love of God, NO!
He is 0-7 against Top 5 teams at Notre Dame.
3-8 against opponents ranked in the top 10 at Notre Dame. Five of the eight losses were by 14 points or more, including that 28-point loss to Alabama in 2012 — the last time Notre Dame played for a national championship.
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Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:14 pm to The Pirate King
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Lol Pete Thamel hates everything LSU. This is the worst example
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The Pirate King
Don’t worry, you can be a fan of whatever team Orgeron ends up being a position coach of.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:16 pm to BilJ
This goes to show that this program is a winning program with a ton of homegrown talent that you can sew up.
Given that Les and CEO have won titles shows this, since they were both line coaches and were never coordinators.
But you look at Mullen and Smart who are respected HC's and were coordinators in their field. They are each thought highly of as HC's and as OC/DC respectively.
These guys haven't won titles yet. I would imagine they would be able to here at LSU, if CEO and Miles did. So I agree with this author that this is an amazing job if some decent position coaches can take this talent and get some capable coordinators and pull a title our of their @ss.
Given that Les and CEO have won titles shows this, since they were both line coaches and were never coordinators.
But you look at Mullen and Smart who are respected HC's and were coordinators in their field. They are each thought highly of as HC's and as OC/DC respectively.
These guys haven't won titles yet. I would imagine they would be able to here at LSU, if CEO and Miles did. So I agree with this author that this is an amazing job if some decent position coaches can take this talent and get some capable coordinators and pull a title our of their @ss.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:24 pm to Mobiletiggah
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This is just sickening. And a dour analysis of the accomplishments, and really failures as well because it’s off the mark. Everyone is envious of Saban……we had Saban. No mention of that here. At Alabama, Saban wasn’t successful early, but the school gave him everything he wanted without question or comment. Not so much at LSU. Didn’t even make that big of a play to keep him. And as a foot note a 17 million dollar buy out wouldn’t pay Saban’s real yearly salary.
RETARD ALERT!
Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:28 pm to Mobiletiggah
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Mobiletiggah
This is just sickening. And a dour analysis of the accomplishments, and really failures as well because it’s off the mark. Everyone is envious of Saban……we had Saban. No mention of that here. At Alabama, Saban wasn’t successful early, but the school gave him everything he wanted without question or comment. Not so much at LSU. Didn’t even make that big of a play to keep him. And as a foot note a 17 million dollar buy out wouldn’t pay Saban’s real yearly salary.
Mobile, just an FYI your village idiot is running loose.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:35 pm to BilJ
Bumpitty bump bump BUMP bumpaf*cka
Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:36 pm to tigerbait3488
The sky has always been the limit at LSU. We need a proven HC and Woodward will seek him out and pay the big $$$$$$$. Geaux fighting tigers
Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:36 pm to Oneforthemoney
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He is 0-7 against Top 5 teams at Notre Dame.
3-8 against opponents ranked in the top 10 at Notre Dame
How many of those games were ND favored in?
Notre Dame can't recruit near the level of talent as most of their competition in those games. Notre Dame's best recruiting class the last 3 years finished 9th in the class rankings. LSU's worst finished 5th. ND's average class rank was 14, LSU's average was 4.
Further skewing this record is the fact that ND always gets put in bowl games they have no business being in simply based on their national draw and the fact that they're generally overrated.
If Kelly is 0-7 against the top 5 and 3-8 against the top 10, then does that mean he's 3-1 against teams ranked between 6 and 10? This could indicated that when his teams aren't completely overmatched, he's actually got a pretty good record.
I can't stand Notre Dame, and definitely don't like Kelly's personality, but he's a good coach and I could support him being hired at LSU.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:38 pm to Clint7173
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What about Chris Petersen?
i wanted him for years. a hidden gem. but he retired in 2019. woody needs to call him again. he is only 57. same as CUM.
dude was 92-12 at boise. sick win%. he is .795 in his career. took shitty UW to win two pac12 titles and make a playoff game!
he is a great coach. but he has his ways.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:43 pm to BilJ
nearly $17 million may be more interesting than watching the Tigers on the field this season. All buyouts in modern college athletics are negotiating points. But LSU will be dealing with a stubborn coach who likely wouldn’t get another shot at a high-end pay day. If you think Orgeron will go quietly, remember he quit on USC as the interim and threw a temper tantrum when he didn’t get the full-time job. Orgeron knows only bull rushing.
He will pussy away like a coward and accept a small fraction of the buyout like so many before him. Why? He violated his contract and there are easily non-NCAA violations tied to him as well as those NCAA. Even the smallest like Cregg’s will knock down that buy out. Bowl Ban, etc are all “For Cause” fireable offenses especially when they are combined.
He will pussy away like a coward and accept a small fraction of the buyout like so many before him. Why? He violated his contract and there are easily non-NCAA violations tied to him as well as those NCAA. Even the smallest like Cregg’s will knock down that buy out. Bowl Ban, etc are all “For Cause” fireable offenses especially when they are combined.
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