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re: Myles Brennan been hitting the Shelvin meal plan?

Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:40 am to
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:40 am to
WGAF?
Posted by LSUStar
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:52 am to
Dude....
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:54 am to
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Brennan went for 430 yards and 4 TD with 0 picks, you dont have to be a rocket scientist to realize that's a heck of a performance. Again especially considering he had a torn ab for most of the game after a big hit he took.

To put even more stats behind it, PFF graded Brennan out at a 90.7 overall that game, that's elite. They gave him 6 big time throws and 0 turnover worthy plays, that's elite. He accounted for 20 1st downs that game, that's elite. He was pressured on 18 of his 51 dropbacks, that's being pressured on 35% of his pass attempts, which is bad, and he still put up 430 yards, with 6 big time throws, 4 TDs and 0 turnover worthy plays with NO RUNNING GAME. That's elite.

You are absolutely clueless, that was a great game form Brennan, but you are trying to cherry pick a thing or two to take that away from him. More than half of those 3rd down situations were 3rd and longs. In fact 6/10 were 3rd and 8 or longer, most being 10+ yards. One of them, a 3rd/13, he completed a pass for 8 yards to set up a 4th/5 in Mizzou territory, which he completed a pass on to continue the drive and we scored a TD on it (threw a TD pass).


I'm not NEARLY as smitten with Brennan as much of the Rant, but I'll certainly give the guy his due. He played well vs. Mizzou. Even moreso when you consider he played 3/4ths of the game with what would be a season ending injury. That was the first game where I thought he was a playmaker, not just kind of a mechanical robot in a system.

As far as the photo, it could just be a misleading angle. But if he has gotten "big", isn't that what everyone has been hoping for over the course of five years? It's February. If the kid has the fast metabolism that prevented him from gaining weight for 4 years then he should have no problem trimming down to an ideal weight in time for the season. For guys like him it is MUCH easier to shed some unnecessary weight vs. gaining needed weight.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:58 am to
Good Lord. It looks like Myles Brennan ate Myles Brennan. Has Coach O been consulting Kiffin on nutritional plans?
Posted by jkylejohnson
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:10 am to
Spin it however you want... myles looks like a-hole casserole.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:22 am to
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that was a great game form Brennan, but you are trying to cherry pick a thing or two to take that away from him


Dude imagine getting 4 extra possessions agsinst Missouri and not being able to out score them

LSU had two gift wrapped TDs, Marshall made a great catch & run 75yds. A lot went right to even get to that point.

Brennan couldn’t close out the game from the 5.

And 0-10 on 3rd down lol come on.

C+ performance at best, this isn’t cherry picking at all. This is directly tied to LSU losing the game. You are very much out of touch
Posted by Laman1978
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:22 am to
Well, y'all wanted him to gain weight, so...
Posted by Sterling Archer
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:40 am to
We had 20 rushes for 49 yards that game. And that's with a long of 24 by TDP. The play calling, blocking and scheme were terrible
Posted by 225Tyga
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:43 am to
They were at Rouj Creole. It was a great dinner for the young men.
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 10:49 am
Posted by Melvin
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:47 am to
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Dude imagine getting 4 extra possessions agsinst Missouri and not being able to out score them LSU had two gift wrapped TDs, Marshall made a great catch & run 75yds. A lot went right to even get to that point. Brennan couldn’t close out the game from the 5. And 0-10 on 3rd down lol come on. C+ performance at best, this isn’t cherry picking at all. This is directly tied to LSU losing the game. You are very much out of touch
Posted by BayouCowboy
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:07 am to
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Brennan couldn’t close out the game from the 5.

1st and goal at the 5 and Mizzou with back up DL knocking our OL into the backfield. Averaging less than 2.5 ypc. That was the most telling part of that game along with a horrid defense.

We should have run at will against Mizzou and had easy short yardage 3rd downs. That was probably the worst game from our OL. LSU actually ran better vs Bama.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:09 am to
Anyone have the tape of the 3rd downs
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:16 am to
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Dude imagine getting 4 extra possessions agsinst Missouri and not being able to out score them



The defense gave up 600 yards and 45 points, dont try and pretend like almost all the blame shouldnt go on them for the loss. Sans a few turnovers or not, that's a pathetic performance overall by them. The defense forced 3 turnovers and STILL gave up 600 yards and 45 points.

We had a FG blocked the drive previous to our last one which would have sealed the game for us with a chip shot FG on the last drive, but instead we had to drive 75 yards to win the game being down 4 instead after our defense gave up yet another Mizzou TD.

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Brennan couldn’t close out the game from the 5.



So because 2 throws didnt connect on the final drive for TDs means he wasnt any good? They were throws into tight coverage or better defense there, not like he missed someone wide open. Both throws were batted away on good plays by Missouri, sometimes you win some there sometimes you lose, but give credit to Missouri for batting away the quick throw on 3rd down then making a great play in coverage on 4th.

I guess we're ignoring the fact the running game, which produced a whopping 50 yards on the ground all game from the backs, failed to punch it in from the 1 yard line not once but twice right before there forcing us to go to the air with no time outs left.

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And 0-10 on 3rd down lol come on.



Again, 6 of those were 3rd and very long situations, not exactly going to convert those often. And also on of those we converted a 4th down and scored a TD that drive.

Again, 90+ grade from PFF, that's elite. 6 big time throws to ZERO turnover worthy plays, that's elite. Was pressured on over 35% of his dropbacks (terrible pressure rate), had ZERO running game, 3 drops from receivers yet still we put up 40+, he threw for 400+ and 4 TD with 0 turnover worthy plays, that's all elite. He had an incredible game especially factoring in he was in excruciating pain from a torn ab to do all that.

But hey, we didnt convert a bunch of 3rd and 10s,

You're seriously blind, everything about that game for him was playing at a very high level.

Also, we didnt have 2 "gift wrapped" TDs, 1 of those TD drives after a turnover started from mid freaking field man. That's not "gift wrapped" like the 5 yard one.

Brennan was basically the entire offense that day.
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 11:19 am
Posted by CnAzInCA
Dallas, Texas
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:20 am to
Ed Ingram didn’t play in that game either, which may have changed the outcome at the goal line to end the game. Quarterback play was not the issue in the loss.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:22 am to
We have very very very very different meanings of elite. That’s about all there is to it. It took lucky breaks & plays by the defense to even get into position to be able to have a shot at the end of the game. You want to talk about elite lmao
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:24 am to
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Anyone have the tape of the 3rd downs



Can alwyas go look at the youtube of the game, im not putting that much effort into time stamping and searching for all 10 third downs but here's 6 of the 10 from the box score:

1st Quarter
3rd and 13 at MU46 Myles Brennan pass complete to Arik Gilbert for 8 yards to the MU38 (Adam Sparks).
4th and 5 at MU38 Myles Brennan pass complete to Arik Gilbert for 17 yards to the MU21, 1ST DOWN LSU (Joshuah Bledsoe;Isaiah McGuire). [Scored a TD this drive]

2nd Quarter
3rd and 10 at MU31 Myles Brennan pass complete to Racey McMath for 7 yards to the MU24, out-of-bounds. [We kicked a FG]

3rd and 10 at LSU25 Myles Brennan pass complete to Kayshon Boutte for 8 yards to the LSU33 (Adam Sparks;Devin Nicholson).

3rd and 8 at LSU27 Myles Brennan pass incomplete to Jontre Kirklin (Adam Sparks).


3rd Quarter
3rd and 17 at MU33 Myles Brennan pass incomplete, QB hurry by Trajan Jeffcoat. [Was pressured on play]

4th Quarter
3rd and 18 at MU30 Myles Brennan pass complete to John Emery for 3 yards to the MU27 (Team).
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:27 am to
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We have very very very very different meanings of elite. That’s about all there is to it. It took lucky breaks & plays by the defense to even get into position to be able to have a shot at the end of the game. You want to talk about elite lmao



It's not even my definition of elite. This is straight up professionals who grade this out. He got a 90+ grade from PFF that game, that's elite on their scale. He was credited with 6 big time throws to 0 turnover worthy plays, that's gigantic in a single game. You know how many games Mac Jones had last year with 6+ big time throws? Zero. Jones had 32 big time throws to 11 turnover worthy plays last season. that;s over 13 games. Brennan got credited with 10 big time throws to 1 turnover worthy play last season in 3 games. Brennan was heating up big time by the Missouri game. You trying to downplay his performance that game is absolutely hilarious. You have to be absolutely blind that game to not see him have a huge game then, again, with a damn torn ab in it.
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 11:30 am
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:35 am to
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It's not even my definition of elite. This is straight up professionals who grade this out. He got a 90+ grade from PFF that game, that's elite on their scale. He was credited with 6 big time throws to 0 turnover worthy plays, that's gigantic in a single game. You know how many games Mac Jones had last year with 6+ big time throws? Zero. Jones had 32 big time throws to 11 turnover worthy plays last season. that;s over 13 games. Brennan got credited with 10 big time throws to 1 turnover worthy play last season in 3 games. Brennan was heating up big time by the Missouri game. You trying to downplay his performance that game is absolutely hilarious. You have to be absolutely blind that game to not see him have a huge game then, again, with a damn torn ab in it.

One thing Mac did have was a 5 star OL giving him a clean pocket and Najee Harris giving him easy 3rd downs and forcing the D to play honest.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
71531 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:39 am to
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One thing Mac did have was a 5 star OL giving him a clean pocket and Najee Harris giving him easy 3rd downs and forcing the D to play honest.



Yep, Mac had way way easier than Brennan, no doubting that at all.

Mac was pressured on 82 of his 426 drop backs last season, that's a 19% pressure rate. By comparison Brennan was pressured 26 times in 57 dropbacks against MSU, that's a 46% pressure rate and 18 times in 51 drop backs against Missouri, that's a 35% pressure rate. So in 2 of his 3 games, Brennan saw an immense amount of pressure. He definitely wasn't very good in the MSU game, taking 7 sacks..but by Missouri only took 2 sacks from all that pressure, and didnt have a single turnover worthy play, all while throwing for 430 yards and 4 TD in a shootout.

Did I mention Brennan had zero semblance of a running game against Mizzou and a mediocre at best one against MSU?
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 11:41 am
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:39 am to
Is it possible he’s wearing some sort of wrap-around brace to protect his abdomen and we are seeing it protrude from his back a bit?
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