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re: Myles Brennan been hitting the Shelvin meal plan?Posted by BayouCowboy on 2/26/21 at 11:46 am to Hot Carl
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Is it possible he’s wearing some sort of wrap-around brace to protect his abdomen and we are seeing it protrude from his back a bit?
Glad you saw that. I was thinking the same thing. It looks like a bulky wrap around his midsection. He has definitely added weight though.
re: Myles Brennan been hitting the Shelvin meal plan?Posted by dukke v on 2/26/21 at 11:47 am to red sox fan 13
Looks a little fat to me.....
re: Myles Brennan been hitting the Shelvin meal plan?Posted by Bert Macklin FBI on 2/26/21 at 11:49 am to Lester Earl
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We have very very very very different meanings of elite. That’s about all there is to it. It took lucky breaks & plays by the defense to even get into position to be able to have a shot at the end of the game. You want to talk about elite lmao
This is why no one can take the "Max Johnson should start" crowd seriously, yall have no desire to have an actual conversation about it. Yall have anointed Max as better and no amount of reasoning will change your mind. I really feel like if MB wins the job back that we will have a segment of our fanbase cheering for him to play bad so Max can get in.
Thunderbird used individual stats and real game situations to support his claim that Brennan played Elite in the Mizzou game (cuz he did.) While you use some team stats while ignoring others to support your claim that Brennan wasn't good in that game. AKA cherry picking.
In every QB thread the convos goes like this:
Team Brennan: We think MB played well early in the year and factors outside of him caused us to lose games. Max also played well, I think MB will win the job but we can't wait to see the competition and may the best man win.
Team Max: MAX IS THE GOAT AND BRENNAN IS ONLY SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN ANTHONY JENNINGS!!!!!
This post was edited on 2/26 at 11:51 am
re: Myles Brennan been hitting the Shelvin meal plan?Posted by moneyg on 2/26/21 at 11:56 am to thunderbird1100
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He was pretty amazing in Mizzou game with what he did with so little support he got. Especially considering he did it mostly with a torn ab in the game. The stats and grades dont lie there.
Lester got it right. And I’ll add that Missouri had a poor defense and had many players on defense out for COVID.
Brennan never looked as good as you are pretending he looked. It DID feel like he was starting to get in a rhythm. But we lived in the big plays against a pretty poor team.
re: Myles Brennan been hitting the Shelvin meal plan?Posted by Lester Earl on 2/26/21 at 12:00 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
I don’t care who starts. Why are you directing that at me?
And Team stats are reflective of your QB when you throw 50x and lose a close game with a 4:0 turnover margin.
With two scores on a combined 30 yards of field.
0-10 on frickin third down. Lmao. Get the frick out of here.
And Team stats are reflective of your QB when you throw 50x and lose a close game with a 4:0 turnover margin.
With two scores on a combined 30 yards of field.
0-10 on frickin third down. Lmao. Get the frick out of here.
re: Myles Brennan been hitting the Shelvin meal plan?Posted by nicholastiger on 2/26/21 at 12:03 pm to CamdenTiger
Max Johnson era is here
Brennan might as well head back to the frat house for beer
Brennan might as well head back to the frat house for beer
re: Myles Brennan been hitting the Shelvin meal plan?Posted by thunderbird1100 on 2/26/21 at 12:31 pm to moneyg
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Lester got it right. And I’ll add that Missouri had a poor defense and had many players on defense out for COVID.
I'm backing my own opinion with professional breakdown, and the pro breakdown says Brennan had an elite game that game.
Missouri was only really missing some defensive linemen on defense that game, which didnt seem to matter much, as again, Brennan was pressured on 36% of his drop backs, which is poor protection. So again, he had a pretty damn great day with a torn ab, poor pass protection and no running game.
I'm not "pretending" anything here. I am backing up everything with the cold hard stats and professional opinion. I also said Brennan was rough in game 1 which should tell you I'm not just blowharding for him here.
re: Myles Brennan been hitting the Shelvin meal plan?Posted by thunderbird1100 on 2/26/21 at 12:35 pm to Lester Earl
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And Team stats are reflective of your QB when you throw 50x and lose a close game with a 4:0 turnover margin.
The defense gave up nearly SIX HUNDRED yards and 45 points. I dont know why you continue to completely ignore that. The defense was the primary reason we lost, there's literally no questioning that.
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With two scores on a combined 30 yards of field.
Now you've turned this into "Scores" and not TDs I see like earlier
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0-10 on frickin third down. Lmao. Get the frick out of here.
Again, broke this down already which you simply ignored.
6 of those 10 downs were 3rd and 8+. 5 were 3rd/10+. We ended up scoring a TD on 1 drive where we "failed" on a 3rd/13, but converted the 4th/5.
Again, you're just cherry picking some things and attempting to throw that all on Brennan when just about everything that game was working against him between his injury, little protection, no running game, typical drops from receivers, etc...yet he still graded out elite by the pros throwing for 430/4 TD.
re: Myles Brennan been hitting the Shelvin meal plan?Posted by Nolaughingmatter on 2/26/21 at 12:36 pm to red sox fan 13
How many pounds is it that the camera adds? 100?
re: Myles Brennan been hitting the Shelvin meal plan?Posted by Andychapman13 on 2/26/21 at 12:36 pm to thunderbird1100
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I'm backing my own opinion with professional breakdown
Alright research scholar, what did the “professionals” say about Brennan’s inability to move with the ball, his inability to release the ball quickly enough, his 3rd down conversion rate, and the fact that our run game sucks with him bc he himself is no threat with his feet? Also, how did those professionals take the fact that Mizzou has 3 starting DL out into their grading matrix???
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re: Myles Brennan been hitting the Shelvin meal plan?Posted by WDAIII on 2/26/21 at 12:38 pm to geauxfish24
How and why is Ponamsky so involved with the program? I don’t know him, and I’m sure that he’s turned his life around since his problem, he’s a nice guy, etc. However, what makes him qualified to be so involved with the program? Why does he have a relationship with the leadership council? If he’s O’s personal assitant and social media director then let him do that, but keep him the frick away from student athletes, recruits, etc. Right? Does LSU pay his salary or O?
re: Myles Brennan been hitting the Shelvin meal plan?Posted by Sterling Archer on 2/26/21 at 12:38 pm to moneyg
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Lester got it right. And I’ll add that Missouri had a poor defense and had many players on defense out for COVID.
and I'll add that Max played against the 100th ranked pass def in UF and the 125th ranked pass def in Ole Miss.
re: Myles Brennan been hitting the Shelvin meal plan?Posted by Lester Earl on 2/26/21 at 12:40 pm to thunderbird1100
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The defense gave up nearly SIX HUNDRED yards and 45 points.
And gave the offense the ball back 4 frickin times
The game turned into a shootout, LSU had 4 extra opportunities. They couldn’t close at the end, and couldn’t convert 3rd downs all game.
I really don’t give a shite if PFF says he made 6 great throws out of 50 dude. I really don’t
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Now you've turned this into "Scores" and not TDs I see like earlier
It was two TDs.
re: Myles Brennan been hitting the Shelvin meal plan?Posted by Melvin on 2/26/21 at 12:41 pm to Sterling Archer
quote:I’ll add that he didn’t have Marshall or Gilbert
and I'll add that Max played against the 100th ranked pass def in UF and the 125th ranked pass def in Ole Miss.
re: Myles Brennan been hitting the Shelvin meal plan?Posted by Fat Bastard on 2/26/21 at 12:43 pm to trussthetruzz
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that “L” thing is so fricking stupid
GFY
re: Myles Brennan been hitting the Shelvin meal plan?Posted by thunderbird1100 on 2/26/21 at 12:44 pm to Andychapman13
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what did the “professionals” say about Brennan’s inability to move with the ball,
You mean like having a torn abdomen in the game? Yeah it'd be tough to move well with something like that, sure.
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his inability to release the ball quickly enough,
He threw for 430 yards, 4 TD, 0 INT and despite being pressured 18 times in 51 drop backs, took just 2 sacks. Sounds like he got the ball off in time more often than not.
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his 3rd down conversion rate
Doesnt take a pro to figure out converting a lot of 3rd and very longs, well, isn't likely. And agian, we ended up scoring a TD on 1 "Failed" 3rd down drive that game, after he converted a 4th down.
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the fact that our run game sucks with him bc he himself is no threat with his feet?
Our run game was garbage most of the season. At any rate, the run game did just fine with poor immobile Brennan against Vandy.
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Also, how did those professionals take the fact that Mizzou has 3 starting DL out into their grading matrix???
Didn't seem to matter much as our run game was shut down and he was still pressured on 36% of his drop backs.
re: Myles Brennan been hitting the Shelvin meal plan?Posted by Lester Earl on 2/26/21 at 12:45 pm to moneyg
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Lester got it right. And I’ll add that Missouri had a poor defense and had many players on defense out for COVID.
Brennan never looked as good as you are pretending he looked. It DID feel like he was starting to get in a rhythm. But we lived in the big plays against a pretty poor team.
Thank you
He wasn’t bad by any means, but LSU got caught in a shootout and he flat out couldn’t match the inferior team, even with extra possessions and short fields. There is no other way to really slice it
re: Myles Brennan been hitting the Shelvin meal plan?Posted by moneyg on 2/26/21 at 1:04 pm to thunderbird1100
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I'm not "pretending" anything here. I am backing up everything with the cold hard stats and professional opinion. I also said Brennan was rough in game 1 which should tell you I'm not just blowharding for him here.
This is one of the can’t see the forest through the trees situations.
We all know he had a good statistical day. So you are just using that many different ways to support your subjective view that he looked amazing.
re: Myles Brennan been hitting the Shelvin meal plan?Posted by thunderbird1100 on 2/26/21 at 1:04 pm to Lester Earl
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And gave the offense the ball back 4 frickin times
3 times, once was special teams.
Let me break this down for you.
Missouri punted the ball ONCE all game. They had 1 turnover on downs, and 2 lost fumbles on offense. They scored a TD on 6 drives, and attempted/made a FG on 2 other drives. All these drives were over 36 yards, with most being 75+ yards. That's 8 scoring drive opportunities for them out of 13 true offensive possessions, 6 of which ended in LONG TD drives.
Missouri's Scoring (or scoring attempt) play drives were:
1. 75 yards (TD)
2. 75 yards (TD)
3. 75 yards (TD) [notice a trend yet?]
4. 40 yards (FG)
5. 75 yards (TD)
6. 83 yards (TD)
7. 36 yards (Missed FGA)
8. 77 yards (TD)
That is unbelievably shite defense. Regardless of the 3 turnovers they caused. Not totally unlike the Ole Miss game, where we still got run up for nearly 600 yards again and 48 points (41 by their offense), yet the defense turned them over six times.
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The game turned into a shootout, LSU had 4 extra opportunities. They couldn’t close at the end, and couldn’t convert 3rd downs all game.
Not much of which is on the arm of Brennan, as again, the dude threw for 430 yards, 4 TD, 0 INT...had zero running game and poor protection with many 3rd and long situations.
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I really don’t give a shite if PFF says he made 6 great throws out of 50 dude. I really don’t
Of course not, because it's just another professional opinion that disagrees with your dumb opinion that Brennan was "Meh a C+ at best that day"
re: Myles Brennan been hitting the Shelvin meal plan?Posted by thunderbird1100 on 2/26/21 at 1:08 pm to Lester Earl
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He wasn’t bad by any means, but LSU got caught in a shootout and he flat out couldn’t match the inferior team, even with extra possessions and short fields. There is no other way to really slice it
It's been sliced many other ways you just refuse to acknowledge you're wrong, dude had an incredible day overall and was the entire offense that day with an extremely bad defense giving up 6 TD drives of over 75 yards. The defense flat out lost that game. We scored 17 points on the 3 short fields he was dealt with, 24 if you want to count a near 50 yard TD drive too, so it's not like the offense didn't capitalize.
This post was edited on 2/26 at 1:09 pm
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