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re: LSU fans regarding QB situation

Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:05 am to
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31563 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:05 am to
quote:

I know more than Kelly


Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:19 am to
quote:

This Ellis Hugh guy is doing his best to supplant them all as King of the Rantards.


He’s long been an idiot.
Posted by docTQ4
Atlanta GA
Member since Jan 2014
1808 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:25 am to
They didn’t put back ups in until 6 min left in the game and were constantly bringing 5 man pressures. They weren’t conceding anything. Please watch the game before saying this, even though I don’t have an opinion either way. I want the best guy to play
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7304 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:30 am to
Nuss turns the ball over pretty much every game he plays in. Turnovers lose games at every level of football.
Posted by docTQ4
Atlanta GA
Member since Jan 2014
1808 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:42 am to
Turnovers were never discussed? No argument there, he has Brett Favre syndrome, but that was to the statement I responded to?
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
9890 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:45 am to
quote:

people are already hating on Howard


Who is hating on Howard?
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7304 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:52 am to
Sorry just replied to last post, not yours.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19101 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:54 am to
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This. We’re not going to win a Natty with this guy.

We’ll be consistently in the 8-10 win range but no higher.

We’re paying a guy $100M to ignore special teams, line up in the gun on 4th and inches, and keep the best QBs on the bench


After a single year and massive improvement. You deserve your misery.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32737 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:17 am to
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The best passing threat rode the bench all year until the last game and lit up the #1 defense for 300 yards and 2 TDs


This metric (and cherry picked stat), should NEVER be used to compare the 2 QB’s and is a prime example of the stupidity of some of our fans.

Do you seriously think the GA defense at that point was playing like a “”#1 defense” or even had their best players in the game at that point? The game was fricking OVER at halftime. Give me a break!
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
15566 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:24 am to
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The game was fricking OVER at halftime.


It was the equivalent of 28-3 with a team from Georgia. They of all people knew it wasn’t over. If we had snuck that 4th and <1 it was going to be a ballgame.

Also regarding turnovers, they’re not all created equal. Many of Nuss’ are going to be arm punts that don’t hurt as much as, say, a fumble on an aborted zone read in a tie game on the road.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 7:26 am
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
6009 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:31 am to
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Look how after a terrible start Freeman is now winning and recruiting at or above Kelly’s level.


Lol no. Freeman declined with Kelly’s staff and roster. Kelly is the key. He’s elevated every program he’s coached. He’s not “stubborn”, he’s smarter than we are which means that we don’t always under his decisions. But some people are too dumb to realize that.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
15566 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:35 am to
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he’s smarter than we are which means that we don’t always understand his decisions.


Oh my god. Are you saying he plays 4D chess?

This is starting to feel like a cult.
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
7236 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:36 am to
I think howard will be the guy. Nuss is a turnover machine. He had 2 in one half. He has talent but does make mistakes. With the oline improvement next year and being a le to run the ball some, i think this sets up howard as the man.’
Posted by iBack8569
Member since Dec 2021
1545 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:08 am to
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I think howard will be the guy. Nuss is a turnover machine. He had 2 in one half. He has talent but does make mistakes. With the oline improvement next year and being a le to run the ball some, i think this sets up howard as the man.’



Did you actually SEE the turnovers? Neither one of them were Nuss's fault. The interception was the result of Boutte being held by the defensive back, which should have been defensive PI. The fumble was on Emery Jones getting SMOKED by the pass rusher who hit Nussmeier from behind. Howard may very well be the guy in the future, but for now it's Nussmeier.
Posted by Zippydog
metairie , La
Member since Jan 2020
831 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:29 am to
Great points . Totally agree . Academic standards and lack of conference affiliation probably are other issues for ND . And … stone age facilities compared with SEC schools .
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14365 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:45 am to
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The fumble was on Emery Jones getting SMOKED by the pass rusher who hit Nussmeier from behind.



Pocket awareness?
Posted by JohnDeer
Phoenix
Member since Oct 2022
325 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:51 am to
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Cue the ignorant fans. They give up on Daniels who leads to an SECCG


Some of us gave up on Daniels a very long time along and Nuss’ performance just confirmed how wrong CBK has been all season to keep him on the bench
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 9:37 am
Posted by Bring Da Wood
Texas
Member since Dec 2006
1936 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:54 am to
I guess I don’t understand why everyone has to agree or think the same way. Fans of all teams have had different opinions and argued about personnel since the beginning of time. Everyone isn’t going to be a fan of the starting QB just like everyone isn’t going to be a fan of the sitting President of the country. It’s ok. The ability to speak different opinions is what separates us from China and N Korea.

That being said, I hope Nuss starts the bowl game.
Posted by iBack8569
Member since Dec 2021
1545 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:55 am to
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Pocket awareness?



Nuss was sacked once versus Daniel's 3...I'd say his pocket awareness is much better than JD's.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38155 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:59 am to
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It was the equivalent of 28-3 with a team from Georgia. They of all people knew it wasn’t over.


I think that is a bit of a reach but kudos to anyone who brings 28-3 into the conversation.


quote:

If we had snuck that 4th and <1 it was going to be a ballgame.



Lots of ifs in this ballgame. If we get a better snap on the kick, if we cover the blocked kick, if that ball doesn't take a wild carrom off a helmet. If they don't call that phantom low block on Jay Ward.

quote:

Many of Nuss’ are going to be arm punts


While that may be true in the future, it was not true for a single interception this season.

Nuss' 3 ints.

Vs Southern
Pick 1: 3rd and 12 at the LSU 26 pass picked at the 50 and returned for 12 yards. If that is an "Arm Punt" it is a bad one.

Pick 2: 3rd and Goal at the 6 and throws a pick six for a 94-yard TD for Southern. Def. not am "Arm Punt"

vs Georgia
Pick was thrown in the end zone with LSU at the UGA 29 on 3rd and 4. That was not going to be a punting, cost LSU a potential score. He had a couple of guys at the sticks and a RB just short of the line to gain he could have dump it to. The stick guys were tight but in front of their coverage and the back was open though coverage was closing. None were guaranteed but I think any of our QBs could have made at least 2 of those throws. Nuss didn't see any of those, though, he stared down Boutte the whole way and didn't see the safety over the top. Boutte did not actually have separation until after the ball was thrown (if then). I think he was trying to throw him open but that is not something you should do the defense has help in position over the top.

Hopefully, Nuss can learn to correct those things.
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