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re: Jay’s quote “We’re not going to negotiate with terrorists”
Posted on 6/10/25 at 5:15 pm to IM_4_LSU
Posted on 6/10/25 at 5:15 pm to IM_4_LSU
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struggle to understand the mindset of many young adults and athletes today. There seems to be a strong sense of entitlement, even when nothing has been earned. Instead of prioritizing teamwork and selflessness, the focus is often on individual wants and needs. If my child behaved this way, I would feel disappointed as a parent.
I was raised to push through challenges, no matter how difficult, because perseverance builds true character. That’s the same lesson we are teaching our children, with the hope that when they face adversity in college or their careers, they won’t simply walk away when things don’t go their way. Commitment and resilience are essential qualities, and I believe they shape a person’s success in the long run. I find it reassuring that Jay does not play into those games and treats it the same way. Buy all in whether its going your way or not.
Excellent post, very well said.
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Posted on 6/10/25 at 5:17 pm to TigersJump
he also said mic paul is gone but coming to omaha anyways, as the team likes him
Posted on 6/10/25 at 5:34 pm to LSU82BILL
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He'll definitely deal with terrorists from other programs if they can help him win games. That's a pretty stupid think for JJ to say.
You don't understand what he is saying. He is basically saying "don't say your leaving, look for a better deal, and come back to him trying to negotiate a return if he can match or exceed the other places offer." I agree with it. If a player wants to shop around then he should not come back to LSU looking for a better deal. You are either in or out.
What you are referring to is a different situation when a player has decided to leave his current team. Of course any coach that needs to win will take a talented player out of the portal. It's negotiating back and forth that Jay wants to avoid.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 5:59 pm to LSU82BILL
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Unless the terrorist is a 3B at NC State, or a pitcher at the Air Force Academy, Alabama, UCLA, UC-San Diego etc.....He'll definitely deal with terrorists from other programs if they can help him win games. That's a pretty stupid think for JJ to say.
He almost certainly encourages certain players to transfer out. He’s not criticizing their decision, he’s saying that once a player has decided to test the waters it’s best for both sides that they just move on.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 6:03 pm to IM_4_LSU
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I struggle to understand the mindset of many young adults and athletes today. There seems to be a strong sense of entitlement, even when nothing has been earned. Instead of prioritizing teamwork and selflessness, the focus is often on individual wants and needs. If my child behaved this way, I would feel disappointed as a parent.
I was raised to push through challenges, no matter how difficult, because perseverance builds true character. That’s the same lesson we are teaching our children, with the hope that when they face adversity in college or their careers, they won’t simply walk away when things don’t go their way. Commitment and resilience are essential qualities, and I believe they shape a person’s success in the long run. I find it reassuring that Jay does not play into those games and treats it the same way. Buy all in whether its going your way or not.
Teams constantly "process" kids that try hard but don't quite develop. It's not a one way street.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 6:05 pm to LSU82BILL
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Unless the terrorist is a 3B at NC State, or a pitcher at the Air Force Academy, Alabama, UCLA, UC-San Diego etc.....He'll definitely deal with terrorists from other programs if they can help him win games. That's a pretty stupid think for JJ to say. I hate these kids pimping themselves out every summer but it's hard to blame some of these kids who just aren't getting the opportunity at LSU.
Getting players to buy into your program is not the same as trying to keep thos that want to leave.
Most of those guys came in and stayed in.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 6:09 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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He almost certainly encourages certain players to transfer out. He’s not criticizing their decision, he’s saying that once a player has decided to test the waters it’s best for both sides that they just move on.
Correct.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 6:18 pm to IM_4_LSU
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I struggle to understand the mindset of many young adults and athletes today. There seems to be a strong sense of entitlement, even when nothing has been earned. Instead of prioritizing teamwork and selflessness, the focus is often on individual wants and needs. If my child behaved this way, I would feel disappointed as a parent.
baseball is pretty cut throat when it comes to rosters.
We process kids all the time and it will get worse with roster limits and more freshmen making it to campus.
I won’t just the character of a kid who reads the writing on the wall.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 6:24 pm to LSU82BILL
That's not what he said.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 6:29 pm to LSU82BILL
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Unless the terrorist is a 3B at NC State, or a pitcher at the Air Force Academy, Alabama, UCLA, UC-San Diego etc.....He'll definitely deal with terrorists from other programs if they can help him win games. That's a pretty stupid think for JJ to say. I hate these kids pimping themselves out every summer but it's hard to blame some of these kids who just aren't getting the opportunity at LSU.
Hrs talking about dudes entering the portal to try to leverage their current team for money or assurances. Skenes and White were out. They weren’t trying to do what Jay was asked about with their former teams
This post was edited on 6/10/25 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 6/10/25 at 6:31 pm to TigersJump
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You cannot play for me and not be all bought into what’s happening here. And if you’re doing that its like you have one foot out…..
The most important part...
Posted on 6/10/25 at 6:32 pm to lesthemadhatter
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I wonder who the player was he negotiated with.
He may be talking about the Vandy transfer who used us to get more money in the draft and ended up signing
Posted on 6/10/25 at 6:43 pm to TigersJump
These kids have the opportunity to compete and earn some playing time by how they perform in the fall. If you join a program and know you have an upperclassmen ahead of you, you have to know that you might have to wait your turn, unless you’re someone like Curiel. Curiel earned his position by dominating in the fall. 1B, 2B, 3B, C, and at least 1-2 outfield spots will be open for competition. These kids in the portal have just as much opportunity to compete at those positions as anyone not currently on the team. This is why I hope Larson sticks with the team.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 6:46 pm to TigersJump
He’s also one of the lucky few HCs that’s in a position where he really doesn’t have to “negotiate with terrorists.” LSU is in the group like the Yankees, Mets, Dodgers in MLB. It has the luxury of knowing only a small handful of teams can compete with the resources/“salary” LSU can offer players. That means Jay can often easily replace a guy who may try to over leverage his position.
Most other programs don’t have that luxury. They may only have a few players worth a ton of money and find themselves in a position of paying the ransom or risk being unable to replace the player.
Realistically, LSU’s only competition in recruiting is about 5-6 SEC teams. If a guy already on the roster overvalues his worth Jay knows there are multiple guys like Eyanson, Dickinson, Hernandez who would LOVE to take their place
Most other programs don’t have that luxury. They may only have a few players worth a ton of money and find themselves in a position of paying the ransom or risk being unable to replace the player.
Realistically, LSU’s only competition in recruiting is about 5-6 SEC teams. If a guy already on the roster overvalues his worth Jay knows there are multiple guys like Eyanson, Dickinson, Hernandez who would LOVE to take their place
Posted on 6/10/25 at 6:47 pm to lsufball19
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Hrs talking about dudes entering the portal to try to leverage their current team for money or assurances. Skenes and White were out. They weren’t trying to do what Jay was asked about with their former teams
Well in that case I agree. Since I have better things to do than watch videos of interviews, it might have helped to have more context than the what the OP actually quoted rather extensively. It doesn’t mention anything about leveraging the LSU program.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 6:51 pm to TigersJump
His attitude is like most of the top coaches. You don’t want to be here? There are plenty of players who do.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 6:56 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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Pretty sure Jay made comments similar to this right after Kling left
I don’t recall that. I remember him saying that he had guys that committed to stay in their exit interviews after last season that flipped and entered the portal. Kling was one of them. Players are close and talk. So if more than one person is told they will be starting a position the following year, it’s not a surprise that they leave to go elsewhere.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 7:10 pm to LSU82BILL
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Since I have better things to do than watch videos of interviews, it might have helped to have more context than the what the OP actually quoted rather extensively. It doesn’t mention anything about leveraging the LSU program.
You have better things to do yet you’re commenting on an interview you didn’t watch on a message board. The OP provides all the context you need but you chose to ignore it or didn’t care to comprehend what you read. He was asked if a player enters the portal and changes his mind, can he come back. Then he responded with that quote. All of that is in the OP. Tommy White and Paul Skenes never tried to go back to NC State and Air Force.
This post was edited on 6/10/25 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 6/10/25 at 7:19 pm to IM_4_LSU
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I struggle to understand the mindset of many young adults and athletes today. There seems to be a strong sense of entitlement, even when nothing has been earned.
These are the children raised on participation trophies and not keeping score in games. Many of them have never been told “no” in their life, and this is the result.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 7:57 pm to PsychTiger
what happened to Alphas?
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