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Posted on 5/28/21 at 2:53 pm to Madking
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didn’t build that program either.
Who said anything about building a program dipshit.
I said he built some badass teams that went and won a shite ton of games and he's widely known in college baseball circles as the best recruiter in the country.
Posted on 5/28/21 at 2:54 pm to Madking
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He’s 2 games above .500 in the SEC since getting to Tennessee even after winning the East this season.
12-18, 29-27
14-16, 40-21, reached regional final
15-2, rest of season cancelled to COVID
20-10, 44-15, won East, may win SECT, will be a national seed
He took over a team that was 7-21 in the SEC the year prior and one who hadn't been to the NCAAT since 2005. In fact, they'd only qualified for the SECT a few times since 2005. He has completely built that program from the ground up and turned them into a national title contender in a matter of a few years. You also cannot ignore the work he did on the recruiting trial at TCU and Arkansas. We have people complain about how hands off Mainieri is in that dept...well Vitello is the exact opposite. He's young, he's hungry, and he clearly seems to know what he's doing.
Hiring a new coach is never easy. And it's also never a guarantee. But the safe hires are not always the best hires. And honestly, I really don't see much risk with Vitello, despite only being a head coach for 4 years. Nothing about how Tennessee has risen gives me pause that it could be a one-off year
This post was edited on 5/28/21 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 5/28/21 at 2:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I’m not knocking him Roger I’m saying I don’t understand the obsession and “can’t miss” attitude our fans have about him when there’s nothing to support it. Are you willing to risk a repeat of the last 12 years on a guy who’s had 1 good season? I’m just not.
Posted on 5/28/21 at 2:56 pm to beauchristopher
What makes that video so bad is the way his names glitching like that,they did that on purpose,because they think it makes the gif look cooler. Let that sink in.
Posted on 5/28/21 at 2:56 pm to Madking
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I’m just saying the Vitello obsession is very odd
To me the O'Sullivan obsession is just as odd. Granted he's had success, but he's in a recruiting Mecca, and should have Bertman type of success. To me that's underachieving. O'Sullivan recruits almost exclusively in Florida, I have concerns that may not be transferable to recruit at LSU on a national level.
Posted on 5/28/21 at 2:57 pm to Madking
quote:Within the context of whether they’re on an upward trajectory or if this is an outlier season it is absolutely relevant.
Last season, you mean 17 games? And I gave the records and showed the discrepancy between them, if you wanna move the goalpost then fine but don’t try to flip it around on me.
Year 1: missed postseason
Year 2: regional finalist
Year 3: started 15-2, season canceled
Year 4: national seed, result pending
That’s pretty clear to anyone being halfway objective.
Posted on 5/28/21 at 2:57 pm to lsufball19
Are you sure they were 20-1 last year? Could swear I remember 15-2.
This post was edited on 5/28/21 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 5/28/21 at 2:57 pm to GeorgeReymond
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The same way Skip Bertman had more upside in 1985. There’s a reason it’s called upside.
Absolutely.
And in 1984 when Brodhead hired Skip, he had absolutely nothing to lose.
Just hard to see Woodward hiring anybody who doesn't have a history of going to Omaha.
Schlossnagle or O'Sullivan. He'll throw the bank at them.
Posted on 5/28/21 at 2:59 pm to TigersSEC2010
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PM is pushing for Sully. We are humoring him. It won’t be Sully.
ETA: And Sully is fine with this. He is likely to get another raise/extension out of it.
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ell I pray you are correct
Same here.
Posted on 5/28/21 at 3:00 pm to MOT
Here’s the rub, you consider a one year jump an upward trajectory and that’s fine but it’s just not enough IMO. I like that he’s young, I like what he’s done but to me LSU baseball has wasted too many seasons to take that leap.
Posted on 5/28/21 at 3:00 pm to Madking
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Are you willing to risk a repeat of the last 12 years on a guy who’s had 1 good season?
We're risking that regardless of who replaces Paul. There is no Nick Saban of college baseball that can just come in and dominate anywhere he coaches. There's going to be risk.
And the last 12 years at LSU have still arguably been top 5 in college baseball. None of the other guys we're considering have been had better results outside maybe O'Sullivan, but he's also underachieved plenty with the talent he's had to work with.
Posted on 5/28/21 at 3:01 pm to OchoDedos
O’Sullivan wouldn’t be my choice either
Posted on 5/28/21 at 3:02 pm to lsufball19
“We're risking that regardless of who replaces Paul”
Well that’s a given but shouldn’t we try to minimize it?
Well that’s a given but shouldn’t we try to minimize it?
Posted on 5/28/21 at 3:02 pm to MOT
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but to assume he’s just going to land the same amount of talent here that he has at Florida is a mistake.
My assumption is that he will start with some FL guys that he has a recruiting relationship with already and add as many of the best guys from LA and a few from TX until he improves the talent level.
Long term he won't need very many players from the state of Florida if he starts going to Omaha. All of the top LA kids and many from across the country will come to LSU if they know they have a great chance to play in Omaha. Just get the right positions of a few missing pieces to fill in gaps when LA talent has down years.
Posted on 5/28/21 at 3:02 pm to Madking
Vitello is ready for this job. Chill.
Posted on 5/28/21 at 3:02 pm to Madking
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I don’t understand the obsession and “can’t miss” attitude our fans have about him when there’s nothing to support it. Are you willing to risk a repeat of the last 12 years on a guy who’s had 1 good season? I’m just not.
Posted on 5/28/21 at 3:03 pm to lsufball19
If true frick Sully and Scott!!! You have a coach Vitello 20 years younger who can evaluate talent and develop it and his players love him. Most former players under Pulmonary can't say that.
God, I hope this doesn't happen with underachiever Sully. If Pulmonary is pushing for Sully as his replacement just hope Scott is his own man because frick that.
Just finally leave Paul!
God, I hope this doesn't happen with underachiever Sully. If Pulmonary is pushing for Sully as his replacement just hope Scott is his own man because frick that.
Posted on 5/28/21 at 3:04 pm to Tigeralum2008
This is a Woody hire and he'll probably get the the toppest of dollars. Woodys MO is throwing big money at big name coaches with trophies to their name.
This post was edited on 5/28/21 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 5/28/21 at 3:04 pm to Madking
You keep focusing on one year when I just laid out 4 year results showing an improvement in each one.
I get that he doesn’t have an extended track record, but you should be able to point that out without attempting to shite on what he has done to this point. If you want more tenure then McDonnell is a 10 year older version of Vitello, and the talent he has put together at Louisville is also more impressive than O’Sullivan doing it at Florida.
I get that he doesn’t have an extended track record, but you should be able to point that out without attempting to shite on what he has done to this point. If you want more tenure then McDonnell is a 10 year older version of Vitello, and the talent he has put together at Louisville is also more impressive than O’Sullivan doing it at Florida.
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