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re: If we kept Orgeron till 2023 and he had JD5, Malik, and BTJ, does he win another Natty?

Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:32 pm to
Posted by TigersJump
In a land far far away
Member since Feb 2018
2907 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:32 pm to
Hell fricking no. Might have 6 players left on scholarship. Dude checked out right after the championship.
Posted by wesman21
Youngsville
Member since Jun 2009
3233 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 11:35 pm to
Maybe so, I think we beat Ole Miss at least.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
14092 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:21 am to
EdO was 11-12 in his last two seasons at LSU. (Yes, I count that Texas Bowl loss to K State on EdO) EdO ran our program into the abyss.
Posted by Load Toad
Haughton, LA
Member since Aug 2008
2312 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:27 am to
No
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
7968 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:41 am to
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Of course he does. Ed O knew how to manage his coordinators unlike Yankee CBK




Oh wait, you’re serious?

rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:


Yankee Kelly is 50 times the coach that Special Ed ever was.

This post was edited on 1/20/25 at 12:44 am
Posted by Curtis Lowe
Member since Dec 2019
1501 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 1:05 am to
quote:

Ed Orgeron

Offensive Coordinator - Inherited Ensminger, demoted him, hired Canada, fired him, re-promoted Ensminger, Ensminger then saw Brady (not Orgeron) and pushed for his hiring, lost Ensminger, hired Peetz because he was friends with Brady at a D3 school and had never been an offensive coordinator in his 16 years of coaching.


Inherited Cam Cameron, fired him, Ensminger took over on an interim basis to finish out the season, hired Canada, fired him............
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75273 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 1:27 am to
quote:

I know he was in complete collapse as a person, but I can’t see him fielding a defense that bad.


2020 and 2021 were dog shite defenses.
Posted by ShockG082
Member since Sep 2021
345 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 3:54 am to
No. Aranda and Brady left for good reason. They knew Orgeron was a house of cards. O was football dumb. He needed a smarter staff.
Posted by Woodman
Seattle WA
Member since Aug 2009
2296 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 4:05 am to
Not a chance. He wasn't the reason we won it all in 2019.

You had a budding head coach with tremendous vision for a creative defense that did bend much, but in the end didn't break and grew into a significantly improved formidable unit by regular season's end.

You had the brightest football mind of a QB ever at LSU who was a an amazing leader by example and was as gutsy and gritty as they can get. I doubt 2019 Joe ever had a doubt and showed his teammates determination where they all rose to the occasion.

Remember O said when Burrow was meeting with the coaches in 2018 that Joe was the brightest football mind in the room. Hell, coach O wasn't even aware (and said as such) that Burrow was dialing-up with the team for over a month in the early summer. You had the summer of 10,000 catches between Joe and his receivers / running backs as well as an amazing relationship between Joe with his offensive line.

I'll give O the credit for (at least) signing off on the hiring of Joe Brady. I give O credit for realizing he had captured lightning in a bottle and getting out of their way. I'm also not taking anything away from how Steve Emsinger worked aside Brady in the booth.

I'm not sure that any other team at any school will ever have all of that pulled together again.

O was who he was and over those 12 months lived the dream life of a coach that may never have such opportunity again. He will always be South Louisiana's pride and joy. That's not a bad thing at all. He deserves that praise for what was accomplished over the 2019 year.
Posted by saturncube21
Member since Nov 2015
9344 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 4:37 am to
LOL
Posted by caliegeaux
Booo Cheeeen
Member since Aug 2004
11481 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 5:15 am to
quote:

know he was in complete collapse as a person, but I can’t see him fielding a defense that bad.


That MSU qb threw for like 900 yards against us right after we won a ship. He hired Bo Pelini without an official interview. I think it’s safe to say we were going to be bad and gradually getting worse, as we did, under O. The following years opener sissy blue UCLA took our manhood right out of the gate. O will forever be remembered for 2019, AND, his massive collapse. His response to his buyout is all you need to know.
This post was edited on 1/20/25 at 5:31 am
Posted by Innoculum
Member since Jan 2025
62 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 5:20 am to
CEO was ready to move on. His head wasn’t in it anymore. If he would have stayed, we’d have been a 5-6 win team year in and year out. I get it. People look down on BK, but BK is still a way better coach than Ed O could have ever be. O caught lightning in a bottle. The only thing O could do better than BK is maybe pep talks.

If BK has the 2019 defense, in 2023, we win it all.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
5555 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 6:24 am to
Stop with the Ed O. He got his money and women, and sailed off into the sunset, and good to see him go. I do believe the beginning of the end was not all his fault and was centered around Ryan Clark getting involved and getting a rally together to march for BLM without even telling O (largely in part because O had said positive things about Trump). I believe that O effectively lost the team after that and never got them back....and given his buyout, he just didn't care to fight it anymore. The BLM BS cost a lot of people.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9111 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 6:33 am to
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You saw 2020 and 2021 right?


Now tell me what BK would have done this year if he lost Nuss before USC
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
18244 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 6:35 am to
There was nothing to suggest Orgeron had the ability, or more importantly, the interest, to 'turn it around'. He seemed more than happy to take his buyout and leave. For some coaches the goal is winning championships, the money is secondary. For others it's just about the money. Ed is clearly in the latter category.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9111 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 6:35 am to
Never forget the administration lit up Tiger Stadium in George Floyd's HS colors
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9111 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 6:37 am to
quote:

The 2021 defense was trending about as bad as 2023 (but with much better

No way it could have been because it was almost an entirely new staff, right? Including current highest paid DC Baker.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
5555 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 6:40 am to
quote:

Yankee Kelly is 50 times the coach that Special Ed ever was.



maybe....but O has the skin on the wall to stake claim to assembling the greatest team ever in CFB.
Posted by Reeaholic
Moss Bluff
Member since Jun 2019
1183 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 6:46 am to
quote:

ipodking


You gotta be straight up trolling at this point.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
16504 posts
Posted on 1/20/25 at 6:50 am to
quote:

I know he was in complete collapse as a person, but I can’t see him fielding a defense that bad.


Did you not watch 2020? We gave up 500 yards and 35 points per game?
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