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re: F. KIng Alexander Speaks on Miles Decision

Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:56 am to
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89725 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:56 am to
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How can you blame alleva here? He was trying to save the program and got undercut by a short sighted a-hole.


I just don't get it. Why does Alexander have the power over Alleva when it comes to athletics? Why even have an AD then?
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:57 am to
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I could see it being a power play by the president and the BOS to reign in TAF a bit. Yes you're privately funded but you still need our final approval.



All three foundations will eventually be merged into one.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84434 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:57 am to
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Those private donors could instead send the money to the university. You know, the thing that actually matters.



quote:

Its their fricking money. They can do what they want with it.



And that's the thing. It is their money. People are going to give money to the things they care about. If it's football, it's football. Just because you don't agree with the priority you're going to refuse it? That's ridiculous.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:57 am to
It is King, period.

He cared about how it would look.. it wasn't going to happen..

There are so many positives a great football program can bring to the university and a splash hire would have really jump started excitement.

Oh wells..

Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162897 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:57 am to
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I just don't get it. Why does Alexander have the power over Alleva when it comes to athletics? Why even have an AD then?


You don't understand how the president of the university has power over the athletic director?
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10397 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:58 am to
Then they should start sending those millions to the LSU Foundation. We have one of the lowest endowments in the SEC

This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Lee Chatelain
Official TD Sauces Club Member
Member since Oct 2008
12482 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:59 am to
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Well that confirms that this jackass and his budget battles are to blame.



I really wish people would understand that LSU's budget battles happened long before King Alexander arrived at LSU. It's LSU's fault 100%. Hiring excess instructors, Deans, assistant Deans, Chancellors, Vice Chancellors, Etc, and then giving all of them tenure when most should of been fired. They have way to much fat and they never trimmed it. NOT King Alwxanders fault. He's right in his explanation in keeping Miles!
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26623 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:59 am to
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Boys...this gives Miles carte blanche to do whatever the frick he wants to do (or not do) for the forseeable future because these budget issues are not going away anytime soon.


Like Miles or not, this is true. The state's budget woes aren't going away anytime soon.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162897 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:01 pm to
well if they get the end result they want after this special session, maybe he won't frick up the deal next year
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4891 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:03 pm to
F.King should be run out of town. He made a fool of himself in front of the legislature earlier in the year. Now he's making a fool of himself, the university, and our athletic department.

Athletics GIVES 10 mil or more to the academics every year. probably the only university REQUIRED TO DO SO.

Even if you want to talk about the money. What he just said was yes, we wanted to fire our coach. however, I'm scared to go before the legislature by doing so. I was to stupid to think about this before the thought of firing our coach. Now, I'm calling the Louisiana people stupid because they don't understand where the money comes from and what it perceives. Yet, again, I was to STUPID to think about this prior to announcing to the world we want to replace our coach.

Yet, Does nothing to right the wrong. He gave this university a black eye for three weeks knowing the entire time he would not agree to the buyout. why start the fing process, then? freaking dumb arse!
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38038 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:03 pm to
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That's fine. But that still doesn't explain the lack of communication between Alleva and Alexander on all this. Rumors were allowed to fester for 2 weeks. If this was never going to happen, there never should have been a leak in the first place. Hell, there never even should have been any contact with Jimbo.


don't be foolish. King was probably all about the switch until he got cold feet over the perception of the expense. He let Joe think the deal was good, until the last minute, knowing Joe would get all the blame. Why do you think Joe never denied the story? Cause as far as he knew, Miles was gone. King screwed everyone over from teh university to Miles on this because he is a greedy, gutless academic leader.
Posted by 7nette
Member since Nov 2015
4909 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:03 pm to
The way I see it is like this...

Suppose you're a recent college graduate, about 90k debt in student loans and you're living with your parents without a job yet. You've also borrowed about 10k from your family for various reasons. One day you get this bright idea to start a gofundme and an anonymous person donates 100k to you. You then decide that you're going to use that money to pay off your 2013 BMW and trade it in and put a down payment on a brand spankin new 2016 BMW. Now let's say a few months later, you desperately need to borrow money from your relatives again. Do you think they'll shell out the money to you? They'll say why can't you just start another gofundme campaign and pay for it yourself?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89725 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:04 pm to
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You don't understand how the president of the university has power over the athletic director? 





When it comes to hiring a coach? No I don't. So Alexander is involved in every coaching hire? Either way this is a complete shite show by everyone involved. And the only one that doesn't look foolish is Miles.

I said LSU would frick this up and I got blasted for it. Where are all the people claiming LSU prints money and they can hire anyone they want. Because obviously they can't.
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
53881 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:04 pm to
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What he just said was yes, we wanted to fire our coach. however, I'm scared to go before the legislature by doing so


He was better off not giving a statement.



Now it's all "Go get 'em Les."
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 12:05 pm
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
84300 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:04 pm to
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F. King Alexander


can eat shite and die. Stupid bastard.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62971 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:04 pm to
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“The public at large really doesn’t differentiate where the money comes from,” he says. “No matter how you explain it, it’s still a $15 million to $25 million decision that needs to be factored into the overall equation.”



This is just BS.

Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8017 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:04 pm to


Don't believe it.

Don't believe anything from a Louisiana public administrator.

My take:
Administration thought they had Jimbo in the bag.
Jimbo backed out.
Most of the big money backers wanted Jimbo and no one else.
There was no Plan B.
Scramble for excuses.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:04 pm to
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I just don't get it. Why does Alexander have the power over Alleva when it comes to athletics? Why even have an AD then?


and this is why we are sometimes the laughing stock of the nation.

the answer is LSU is a college.
the college has a number of dept.s
the athletic dept is one of those
the head of the college is the BOS
they hire a PRESIDENT to run the college
the dept heads report to the PRESIDENT

therefore the PRESIDENT is the boss.

LSU is supposed to be a college with a football team. but it is obvious that some, if not many think that it's a football team with a college.

EDUCATION is what you get to get a good job.
FOOTBALL is what you watch for entertainment.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21023 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:05 pm to
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Then they should start sending those millions to the LSU Foundation. We have one of the lowest endowments in the SEC


Pretty much happens every year when the AD donates money to the school

Also again it's their money and they can donate it how they see fit.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84434 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:06 pm to
It's such a paternalistic slap in the face.

"You people are too stupid to know the difference between public and private funding so I'm just taking all the toys away."
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