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re: F. KIng Alexander Speaks on Miles Decision
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:41 am to stephendomalley
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:41 am to stephendomalley
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guys, they couldn't handle the political pressure. he's right - politicians would've gone nuts grandstanding about the waste of money, no matter that none of it came from public coffers. American people, including louisianaians, are that stupid these days.
And he and Joe Aleva get paid a lot of money to understand these type of issues. This calculus needs to be done BEFORE you leak the intent to replace Miles.
The lack of forethought/communication by Aleva and Alexander has damaged Miles and damaged the LSU brand.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:42 am to lsu13lsu
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I often wonder if these guys are weirdos?
The boosters are a called jock sniffers and star frickers by the actual players. Don't get me wrong, the players love the boosters...especially the envelopes of money that magically appear at their doorstep and the "favorable" vehicle leases that they get despite having no credit history. But do they really respect the booster....not really
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:42 am to TN Bhoy
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LSU is a university with a football team, NOT a football team with a university.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:42 am to Golfer
It looks to be a trainwreck of an interview but at the risk of enraging the Rant, I kind of like how somebody at the top pretty much openly said "We've got bigger problems right now. frick football!"

Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:44 am to SammyTiger
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fricking moron
Sammy, the frickin' morons are the state legislature; the ones that years back "protected" so many areas in the state budget that there are only a few areas in today's state budget that can legally be cut. higher education is one of those few areas that can be cut.
so Alexander, the man THAT IS CHARGED with balancing his budget and making the money stretch as far as possible is handcuffed.
the real morons are the legislators and governor. they need to repeal that law and not cut education every damn time they overspend.
i'm sorry to bring up education when it's obvious that some value football more than education. they are also morons. I hope you don't fit in that group and are only in the group that doesn't understand the situation.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:45 am to Walking the Earth
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"We've got bigger problems right now. frick football!"
Except what he really said was:
"We've got bigger problems right now. frick Football. But Miles sucks too and we don't want him here just wanted to let everyone know k thanks. Go on about your negative recruiting sec west."
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:46 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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Those private donors could instead send the money to the university. You know, the thing that actually matters.
they should foot the bill due to a governor that would not do what was necessary to balance the budget to maintain a talking point for his presidential campaign?
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:47 am to PhiTiger1764
Regardless of your opinion on King Alexander's decision (which imo does not make too much sense), it should be clear now that Alleva was essentially the fall guy and had ZERO control over the decision to keep or buy out Miles.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:50 am to LoveThatMoney
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Yep. And I refuse to believe that people are too stupid to understand the money is coming from somewhere other than the state.
Now the media? The media would lambast us, just as they were doing before Miles even got fired, because they have to feed a narrative.
Our socio-political environment is so volatile that bad press lasts only a week if you're lucky. Instant information at your fingertips give us the attention span of a hummingbird.
All it takes is one pilot to be intoxicated during a plane crash or one mass shooting and everyone already forgets what the frick happened five minutes ago.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:50 am to LSUGoose
To be accurate for those who didn't read the entire article, there were paragraphs omitted in the OP.
It's important to note the some BOS members were there who contributed in the decision making, so it wasn't just Alexander and Alleva. To fire Miles, the recommendation had to be presented to the BOS. It never was and this article appears to suggest it might not have passed them either. Don't know which BOS members were present, but one (Stanley Jacobs) was quoted that as of Saturday morning the recommendation had not been presented to the BOS and that he supported keeping Les.
I'm not giving an opinion one way or another, but if you're going to throw darts, your targets are more than just two people. If the recommendation wasn't going to be supported by the BOS, it wasn't going to pass anyway. Don't know if that's the case, but it appears to be the way it may have gone. If Alleva and Alexander knew that, there would be no point in recommending firing. Food for thought.
Interesting that they made the final decision at the game, but it was pretty much over before they did that.
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But there were others factors also at play in the deliberations, he says. One was the outpouring of popular support for Miles in the final days leading up to the Texas A&M game, a groundswell that occurred as reports suggested the coach’s fate was sealed. Miles’ historical record in 11 seasons of coaching at LSU—the best in Tiger history—also had to be taken into consideration.
It's important to note the some BOS members were there who contributed in the decision making, so it wasn't just Alexander and Alleva. To fire Miles, the recommendation had to be presented to the BOS. It never was and this article appears to suggest it might not have passed them either. Don't know which BOS members were present, but one (Stanley Jacobs) was quoted that as of Saturday morning the recommendation had not been presented to the BOS and that he supported keeping Les.
I'm not giving an opinion one way or another, but if you're going to throw darts, your targets are more than just two people. If the recommendation wasn't going to be supported by the BOS, it wasn't going to pass anyway. Don't know if that's the case, but it appears to be the way it may have gone. If Alleva and Alexander knew that, there would be no point in recommending firing. Food for thought.
Interesting that they made the final decision at the game, but it was pretty much over before they did that.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:51 am to LSUtoOmaha
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clear now that Alleva was essentially the fall guy and had ZERO control over the decision to keep or buy out Miles.
That's fine. But that still doesn't explain the lack of communication between Alleva and Alexander on all this. Rumors were allowed to fester for 2 weeks. If this was never going to happen, there never should have been a leak in the first place. Hell, there never even should have been any contact with Jimbo.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:51 am to LSUtoOmaha
How do we contact F King. We need to run his arse out NOW.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:52 am to Walking the Earth
Interesting to see what actions they may take if this same scenario were to pan out next year. With even greater expectations next season, it's not beyond the realm of possibility.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:52 am to SabiDojo
you've already seen journalists that lack an understanding following King's bankruptcy statements, when the lazy river issue made national headlines.
But again that was the result of King making extreme statements.
But again that was the result of King making extreme statements.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:54 am to LSUGoose
Wow, he only cares about the academics.. I hope he pays for that decision.
He needs to go. Period. King needs to go more so than Miles. No one would give a shite if LSU's boosters and company paid the buyout.
He needs to go. Period. King needs to go more so than Miles. No one would give a shite if LSU's boosters and company paid the buyout.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:54 am to elprez00
Typical of someone in the Academia world. Everyone else is to stupid too understand how brilliant he really is.
LSU football is doomed with this kind of leadership mind as well start getting excited about making it to the Citrus bowl once every 4 years now....
LSU football is doomed with this kind of leadership mind as well start getting excited about making it to the Citrus bowl once every 4 years now....
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 11:56 am
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:55 am to Gris Gris
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It's important to note the some BOS members were there who contributed in the decision making, so it wasn't just Alexander and Alleva. To fire Miles, the recommendation had to be presented to the BOS. It never was and this article appears to suggest it might not have passed them either. Don't know which BOS members were present, but one (Stanley Jacobs) was quoted that as of Saturday morning the recommendation had not been presented to the BOS and that he supported keeping Les.
I'm not giving an opinion one way or another, but if you're going to throw darts, your targets are more than just two people. If the recommendation wasn't going to be supported by the BOS, it wasn't going to pass anyway. Don't know if that's the case, but it appears to be the way it may have gone. If Alleva and Alexander knew that, there would be no point in recommending firing. Food for thought.
Interesting that they made the final decision at the game, but it was pretty much over before they did that.
I could see it being a power play by the president and the BOS to reign in TAF a bit. Yes you're privately funded but you still need our final approval.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:55 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm
Upcoming Donations to LSU Athletics
Why give if it's not going to be used.
Why give if it's not going to be used.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 11:56 am
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:55 am to TN Bhoy
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Those private donors could instead send the money to the university. You know, the thing that actually matters.
Its their fricking money. They can do what they want with it.
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