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re: F. KIng Alexander Speaks on Miles Decision

Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:41 am to
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:41 am to
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guys, they couldn't handle the political pressure. he's right - politicians would've gone nuts grandstanding about the waste of money, no matter that none of it came from public coffers. American people, including louisianaians, are that stupid these days.


And he and Joe Aleva get paid a lot of money to understand these type of issues. This calculus needs to be done BEFORE you leak the intent to replace Miles.

The lack of forethought/communication by Aleva and Alexander has damaged Miles and damaged the LSU brand.

Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37494 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:42 am to
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I often wonder if these guys are weirdos?


The boosters are a called jock sniffers and star frickers by the actual players. Don't get me wrong, the players love the boosters...especially the envelopes of money that magically appear at their doorstep and the "favorable" vehicle leases that they get despite having no credit history. But do they really respect the booster....not really
Posted by Darren
Member since Apr 2008
592 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:42 am to
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LSU is a university with a football team, NOT a football team with a university.

Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17457 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:42 am to
It looks to be a trainwreck of an interview but at the risk of enraging the Rant, I kind of like how somebody at the top pretty much openly said "We've got bigger problems right now. frick football!"
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:44 am to
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fricking moron


Sammy, the frickin' morons are the state legislature; the ones that years back "protected" so many areas in the state budget that there are only a few areas in today's state budget that can legally be cut. higher education is one of those few areas that can be cut.

so Alexander, the man THAT IS CHARGED with balancing his budget and making the money stretch as far as possible is handcuffed.

the real morons are the legislators and governor. they need to repeal that law and not cut education every damn time they overspend.

i'm sorry to bring up education when it's obvious that some value football more than education. they are also morons. I hope you don't fit in that group and are only in the group that doesn't understand the situation.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
14583 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:45 am to
quote:

"We've got bigger problems right now. frick football!"

Except what he really said was:

"We've got bigger problems right now. frick Football. But Miles sucks too and we don't want him here just wanted to let everyone know k thanks. Go on about your negative recruiting sec west."
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162897 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:46 am to
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Those private donors could instead send the money to the university. You know, the thing that actually matters.


they should foot the bill due to a governor that would not do what was necessary to balance the budget to maintain a talking point for his presidential campaign?
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26745 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:47 am to
Regardless of your opinion on King Alexander's decision (which imo does not make too much sense), it should be clear now that Alleva was essentially the fall guy and had ZERO control over the decision to keep or buy out Miles.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84434 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:50 am to
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Yep. And I refuse to believe that people are too stupid to understand the money is coming from somewhere other than the state.

Now the media? The media would lambast us, just as they were doing before Miles even got fired, because they have to feed a narrative.


Our socio-political environment is so volatile that bad press lasts only a week if you're lucky. Instant information at your fingertips give us the attention span of a hummingbird.

All it takes is one pilot to be intoxicated during a plane crash or one mass shooting and everyone already forgets what the frick happened five minutes ago.

Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:50 am to
To be accurate for those who didn't read the entire article, there were paragraphs omitted in the OP.

quote:

But there were others factors also at play in the deliberations, he says. One was the outpouring of popular support for Miles in the final days leading up to the Texas A&M game, a groundswell that occurred as reports suggested the coach’s fate was sealed. Miles’ historical record in 11 seasons of coaching at LSU—the best in Tiger history—also had to be taken into consideration.


It's important to note the some BOS members were there who contributed in the decision making, so it wasn't just Alexander and Alleva. To fire Miles, the recommendation had to be presented to the BOS. It never was and this article appears to suggest it might not have passed them either. Don't know which BOS members were present, but one (Stanley Jacobs) was quoted that as of Saturday morning the recommendation had not been presented to the BOS and that he supported keeping Les.

I'm not giving an opinion one way or another, but if you're going to throw darts, your targets are more than just two people. If the recommendation wasn't going to be supported by the BOS, it wasn't going to pass anyway. Don't know if that's the case, but it appears to be the way it may have gone. If Alleva and Alexander knew that, there would be no point in recommending firing. Food for thought.

Interesting that they made the final decision at the game, but it was pretty much over before they did that.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
14583 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:51 am to
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clear now that Alleva was essentially the fall guy and had ZERO control over the decision to keep or buy out Miles.

That's fine. But that still doesn't explain the lack of communication between Alleva and Alexander on all this. Rumors were allowed to fester for 2 weeks. If this was never going to happen, there never should have been a leak in the first place. Hell, there never even should have been any contact with Jimbo.
Posted by LSUcrawfish
St George,Louisiana
Member since Feb 2007
4301 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:51 am to
How do we contact F King. We need to run his arse out NOW.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31550 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:51 am to
frick him. Seriously.
Posted by MasonTiger
Mason, Ohio
Member since Jan 2005
18802 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:52 am to
Interesting to see what actions they may take if this same scenario were to pan out next year. With even greater expectations next season, it's not beyond the realm of possibility.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162897 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:52 am to
you've already seen journalists that lack an understanding following King's bankruptcy statements, when the lazy river issue made national headlines.

But again that was the result of King making extreme statements.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:54 am to
Wow, he only cares about the academics.. I hope he pays for that decision.

He needs to go. Period. King needs to go more so than Miles. No one would give a shite if LSU's boosters and company paid the buyout.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
11140 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:54 am to
Typical of someone in the Academia world. Everyone else is to stupid too understand how brilliant he really is.

LSU football is doomed with this kind of leadership mind as well start getting excited about making it to the Citrus bowl once every 4 years now....

This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 11:56 am
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162897 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:55 am to
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It's important to note the some BOS members were there who contributed in the decision making, so it wasn't just Alexander and Alleva. To fire Miles, the recommendation had to be presented to the BOS. It never was and this article appears to suggest it might not have passed them either. Don't know which BOS members were present, but one (Stanley Jacobs) was quoted that as of Saturday morning the recommendation had not been presented to the BOS and that he supported keeping Les.

I'm not giving an opinion one way or another, but if you're going to throw darts, your targets are more than just two people. If the recommendation wasn't going to be supported by the BOS, it wasn't going to pass anyway. Don't know if that's the case, but it appears to be the way it may have gone. If Alleva and Alexander knew that, there would be no point in recommending firing. Food for thought.

Interesting that they made the final decision at the game, but it was pretty much over before they did that.


I could see it being a power play by the president and the BOS to reign in TAF a bit. Yes you're privately funded but you still need our final approval.
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
53881 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:55 am to
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Why give if it's not going to be used.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 11:56 am
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:55 am to
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Those private donors could instead send the money to the university. You know, the thing that actually matters.



Its their fricking money. They can do what they want with it.
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