re: Ed O’s recruiting classes were 5th, 4th, and 3rd, who will match that?

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Ed O’s recruiting classes were 5th, 4th, and 3rd

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And yet had zero top-flight OL.

winning big with big ranked classes the flip side of successful recruiting.

Doesn’t matter how good his classes were ranked he squandered all that talent! He isn’t even ranked in the top 25 and some clowns still want him ??. I would say 15 percent of LSU fans are intelligent sports fans the rest are sunshine pumping, I
Love O and les miles till I die as- hats

I’d love to start getting some more Memphis and Arkansas recruits.

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Now its plain that Ed was grabbing stars to bump up the overall recruiting standings, knowing that many/ most fans only look at the final standings (total and avg. stars) and NOT whether we were recruiting smartly to needs.

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I think this is a bit of an oversimplification. You’re making it sound like he’s “grabbing stars” in the sense that he’s recruiting highly rated players solely to boost the recruiting ranking. But in reality, the 247 rankings are heavily weighted towards the top of the class. The best recruit counts for 100%, the 5th best recruit counts for 80%, the 10th best recruit counts for 30%, and the 15th best recruit counts for about 5%.

So, for example, a guy like Koy Moore doesn’t really impact your class ranking much despite being a 4-star recruit, because he’s the 16th-rated player in the class.

I don’t think Orgeron has taken all of these highly-rates skill position players to boost the rankings - I think he’s taken them because they were good players. It’s a red herring. The issue is just that he’s whiffed on the top OL prospects. I do think we have some promising young guys at OT in Dumervil and Dellinger, not to mention Campbell next year. But it’s too little, too late. And the interior OL recruiting has been worse.

The best question is how many of those recruits are still on the roster after one year?

And none of those was nearly as good as the one he took over from Miles. The 2017 class was the best in LSU history, and it was only ranked 7.

was definitely way too many questionable takes a few classes in a row from 2018-2019 that bit us in the butt this season.

2018
Kelvin Joseph – transfer
Jarell Cherry – non contributor
Chasen Hines – in and out of lineup on OL
Travez Moore – transfer
Davin Cotton – transfer
Dare Rosenthal – transfer
Kenan Jones – kicked off team?
Chris Curry – transfer
Cam Wire – in and out of lineup on OL
Cole Smith – transfer
Nelson Jenkins – transfer
Dominic Livingston – transfer
Zach Sheffer – transfer
Tae Provens – transfer
Dantrieze Scott – transfer

Freaking 11-12 transfers/kicked off team guys in 1 class, unreal.


2019
Derek Stingley – not playing this year
John Emery Jr. – not playing this year
Marcel Brooks – transfer
Kardelll Thomas – not playing this year
Trey Palmer – miss at WR
Maurice Hampton – transfer
Siaki Ika – transfer
Ray Parker- transfer
Donte Starks – kicked off team
Devonta Lee – miss at WR
Anthony Bradford – in and out of lineup on OL
Peter Parrish – transfer
Raydar Jones – miss at CB
Thomas Perry – not playing this year
Kendell McCallum – left team
Charles Turner – miss on OL
Joseph Evans – quit team
T.K. McClendon – transfer
Desmond Little – miss on DL

Another 9 transfer/quit/kicked off team with a number of guys not playing this year due to injury/eligibility/etc…

These 2 classes have been back breakers this season“

Posted on 247 LSU. Not my work. I plagiarized here

So yes they were ranked highly at the time but haven’t amounted to much.

What’s amazing is with all of the transfers, injuries, and misses, LSU still managed to dominate Fla with their offense. Though O missed and loss talent, he hit on enough talent that they began starting as freshmen and sophomores against a very talented Fla team.