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Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:22 am to MightyYat
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How many times this year have we run a play-action bootleg to Quinn? The answer is maybe once. Bama was all over that shite. They had 3 guys in that area of the field.
The guy that intercepted the pass said it was the same play he was late getting to in the first half. Some players only have to get beat once to learn something.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:22 am to AllemanWC
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Plus when Quinn and Diarse are in as the only wideouts then you know it's a run
See my post above. Quinn was the intended receiver on the Harris INT. That was off of a play-action bootleg that isn't even on film this year and Bama had 3 guys around that INT. Nick just has us figured out for whatever reason.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:23 am to GetmorewithLes
Na, everyone just knows what Less is going to do before the game even starts.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:28 am to MightyYat
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See my post above. Quinn was the intended receiver on the Harris INT. That was off of a play-action bootleg that isn't even on film this year and Bama had 3 guys around that INT. Nick just has us figured out for whatever reason.
LSU has run that PA bootleg several times this year, including once or twice in the game already, and it's always in their own half of the field.
Bama didn't key off of personnel on that play, they keyed on a look they had seen on film and in the game.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:30 am to The Egg
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really don't have to tip anything off to know what we're trying to do.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:30 am to The Egg
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really don't have to tip anything off to know what we're trying to do.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:32 am to texastigerr
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Na, everyone just knows what Less is going to do before the game even starts.
and I keep going back to the fact that we have not mastered the possession pass offense... We will not or are not willing to throw for 5-6 yds... and it is killing us in crunch time.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:37 am to Salmon
Some guy on here said his 7 year old Nephew noticed that everytime a running back lined up on the right we ran...on the left we threw... may not be true, but if it is..Wow!
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:38 am to GetmorewithLes
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We will not or are not willing to throw for 5-6 yds
It's the latter. Even in 2013 most of the plays were long developing, deeper routes.
Cam's offense doesn't included many screens or quick throws over the middle.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:46 am to RB10
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Cam's offense doesn't included many screens or quick throws over the middle.
This!
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:50 am to RB10
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Cam's offense doesn't included many screens or quick throws over the middle.
Well, the one before it didn't include many either. Kind of makes you wonder whose offense it actually is?
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:52 am to GetmorewithLes
Bama and most teams know exactly what LSU is going to do based on personnel/package combos on virtually every snap. LSU out-talents most defenses, but not Bama.
Deception and variation would make LSU virtually unstoppable with their combo of skill and linemen. But who needs that?
Deception and variation would make LSU virtually unstoppable with their combo of skill and linemen. But who needs that?
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:56 am to Salmon
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wasn't even 8 the safeties were not lining up in the box he could have came up once he recognized the play, but he wasn't lining up in the "box"
This is all very interesting.
Miles says a safety was coming up to make tackles along with their front seven.
I don't mention that the safety was lined up in the box. I just repeat that miles says he was coming up and making tackles.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:03 am to Alt26
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Well, the one before it didn't include many either. Kind of makes you wonder whose offense it actually is?
You mean when Stud was the "OC"? I have no doubt that Les was running that show. Crowton's offense used screens and quick throws all the time.
Cam's offense used to throw to the RB all the time, particularly for the Chargers and Ravens. However, only 91 catches for RBs in his time at LSU is a pretty glaring stat. Especially considering Magee was a decent receiver and LF could be a receiving TE, if he wanted.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:16 am to GetmorewithLes
Consider: the toss-back play .. have you ever seen that faked, and then a pass thrown? (other than the flea flicker earlier this yr.) In other words, with a hand-off, the reason that play action passes exist is b/c sometimes the QB hands the ball off to the back, sometimes he fakes handing it off, and then passes. With the toss back, everyone in the stadium including the defense knows it will be a run and therefore they don't even worry about the pitch back being faked and a pass thrown.
Very, very predictable, and against a defense like Ala., sort of, kind of, dumb.
Very, very predictable, and against a defense like Ala., sort of, kind of, dumb.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:23 am to GetmorewithLes
this whole offense is a tip-off. The formations dictate whats coming. shite I guess the play 75% of the time. If I can do it I know Saban and co. can get it 95% of the time
Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:33 am to CHET72
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Something about how the line got in their stance. IF they were lined up low, Bama knew it was a run, and if higher, then it would be a pass.
No link. anyone else see this?
Would this not come up in practice when the one unit that plays against the OL more often than any team in the nation might actually observe this and point this out? Would Coach O not observe this if he is is coaching his linemen to look for tells in their opponent?
Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:35 am to Willie Stroker
Had we just come out in 3 wide, we would have fricked Saban's mind. Yes, he would have adjusted, but it would have given a different look than he was expecting.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 12:06 pm to Rabid Tiger
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I said it before, but winning 9-6 the way we won it, ultra-conservative, field position, time of possession, was the worst thing to happen to Les vs Alabama.
I've thought this quite a few times. He went into the championship game that year with the idea we could do the very same things we did in the 9-6 game and win. For instance, we ran the option a couple of times very early in the championship game, and Bama just shut it down. He believed we woule eventually wear them down, like we had opponents all season, and there was no other place to turn when it didn't happen.
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