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Posted on 6/30/21 at 2:32 pm to Scoper
See ya O. Thanks for 2019
Posted on 6/30/21 at 2:33 pm to SammyTiger
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The issue is that LSU did Not do what it was required to do when “she said”
She never said anything to LSU it sounds like.
Her boyfriend said that she said.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 2:33 pm to Scoper
It's like this - if he goes 8-4 or worse, Woodward fires him for cause and avoids that big buyout that Alleva put in his contract.
10-2 or better and all is forgiven and forgotten. LSU quietly pays out a settlement in this suit and the whole thing goes away.
9-3, though, and anything can happen.
10-2 or better and all is forgiven and forgotten. LSU quietly pays out a settlement in this suit and the whole thing goes away.
9-3, though, and anything can happen.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 2:33 pm to USMCTIGER1970
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Guice hit it the whole team knew about it, player is hurt and in his feelings, O tries to tell him in a nice way she gets around, she's cries rape but never goes to LE, IF YOU BEEN RAPED FILE A DAMN POLICE REPORT AND GET A RAPE KIT DONE!!!
She said she was scared of getting exactly this kind of treatment. It’s very common in rape cases.
That being said, the BF didn’t tell USA Today or the internal investigation that he told O about the rape.
Now that’s the allegation. Generally speaking a story changing multiple times does not hold up well in court.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 2:34 pm to Scoper
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This post was edited on 6/30/21 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 6/30/21 at 2:35 pm to Hester Carries
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She never said anything to LSU it sounds like.
Her boyfriend said that she said.
I don't think that part really matters. Usually the policy language will just read as "received notice" or something to that effect.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 2:35 pm to Scoper
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Posted on 6/30/21 at 2:39 pm to Scoper
Unless there is damning evidence in writing, this is a big nothing burger as far as O is concerned. That quote certainly doesn’t make it seem like he thought she was raped. If there is written evidence that he believed she was raped, LSU will fire him with cause.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 2:40 pm to cajun12
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So did the girl report the rape or her boyfriend?
LSU diving coach reported it to the athletic department who contacted the Title IX office. The title IX reached out to her in 2015. She declined to file a complaint.
Coach O's comment was 14-15 months after the athletic department contacted the Title IX coordinator about the incident.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 2:41 pm to SammyTiger
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She said she was scared of getting exactly this kind of treatment. It’s very common in rape cases
What type of treatment is she getting? By not going to the police she created a situation were people think she is being less than truthful about about what happen. If she had filed a report she would be in a much better position to win her case right now.
This post was edited on 6/30/21 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 6/30/21 at 2:43 pm to Scoper
Orgeron's reaction to to Robertson's BF doesn't seem like the BF said rape. Also, if he was so mad, why didn't he report it to a Title IX officer?
THIS IS NOT A DEFENSE OF ANYONE:
Its a complete administrative failure if students do not how to report rapes to Title IX office. Every student should know where the office is and who to talk to. it should be in every building posted somewhere. Did coaches know? If students obviously dont, why should we assume that coaches were told how to handle situations? So why stop at suing Ed? Why not go after F. King?
To answer the question, Yes. I think he will. Because there isn't provable info that he knew it was rape based on what you posted.
THIS IS NOT A DEFENSE OF ANYONE:
Its a complete administrative failure if students do not how to report rapes to Title IX office. Every student should know where the office is and who to talk to. it should be in every building posted somewhere. Did coaches know? If students obviously dont, why should we assume that coaches were told how to handle situations? So why stop at suing Ed? Why not go after F. King?
To answer the question, Yes. I think he will. Because there isn't provable info that he knew it was rape based on what you posted.
This post was edited on 6/30/21 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 6/30/21 at 2:46 pm to bayou85
Yes, he will.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 2:47 pm to CalTiger53
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This post was edited on 6/30/21 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 6/30/21 at 2:48 pm to Scoper
Ofcourse he will.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 2:49 pm to Scoper
From the HB investigation:
From the USA Today Article:
What he hasn’t told anyone is that he told O she was raped.
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In a newspaper article, Complainant 1 also relayed that her boyfriend at the time was an LSU football player. This player transferred from LSU in June 2017. At the time of his transfer, he said “I have nothing but love and respect for Coach O and all of my brothers at LSU.” In the USA Today article, Complainant 1 said she informed her boyfriend of the assault and he steered clear of Guice because “I probably would have lost my (expletive) on him.” In that same article, the boyfriend purportedly said LSU head football coach Ed Orgeron brought up the subject of his then- girlfriend and Guice “about a year after the alleged assault, telling the athlete he shouldn’t be bothered by it.” Orgeron purportedly said, ‘Everybody’s girlfriend sleeps with other people.” Orgeron credibly denied the allegation in his interview with Husch Blackwell. Instead, he had learned that the player was considering transferring. In trying to figure out why he wanted to transfer, Orgeron said he learned that player’s “girlfriend was cheating on him and the team was teasing him.” Orgeron stated that when he spoke to the player, “it was what I would have told my son. I said, ‘you’re not the only person who has this problem, there is a solution.’” Orgeron made clear: “No one ever told me [Guice] was accused of raping [the player’s] girlfriend.” We have tried several times to reach the player on the phone number we were provided, but each time our calls went to a voicemail that had not been programmed to receive messages.
From the USA Today Article:
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The former boyfriend redshirted his freshman year and said he steered clear of Guice because “I probably would have lost my (expletive) on him.” He said LSU head football coach Ed Orgeron brought up the subject of his then-girlfriend and Guice about a year after the alleged assault, telling the athlete he shouldn’t be bothered by it. “(Orgeron) said, ‘Everybody’s girlfriend sleeps with other people,’ ” the former player told USA TODAY.
The former player said he doesn’t know how Orgeron knew what happened, but he believes the coach knew it was not consensual.
What he hasn’t told anyone is that he told O she was raped.
This post was edited on 6/30/21 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 6/30/21 at 2:51 pm to Scoper
Coaches are being placed in impossible situations. They are not law enforcement officers.
LSU needs to draft a policy and a document that is given to every college student on the proper steps to reporting rape and/or any other crime.
The document should include the contact information within the Baton Rouge Police Department of every investigative unit and the types of crimes that each unit investigates.
When a student/athlete comes to report an incident to a football coach or administrator, the document can be handed directly to them again.
LSU needs to draft a policy and a document that is given to every college student on the proper steps to reporting rape and/or any other crime.
The document should include the contact information within the Baton Rouge Police Department of every investigative unit and the types of crimes that each unit investigates.
When a student/athlete comes to report an incident to a football coach or administrator, the document can be handed directly to them again.
This post was edited on 6/30/21 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 6/30/21 at 2:52 pm to Rosenblatt
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Woodward had a Freudian slip
What did he say?
Posted on 6/30/21 at 2:53 pm to Scoper
Why not call the Police?
Posted on 6/30/21 at 2:58 pm to LSUAlum2001
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Why not call the Police?
Because she didn’t want to be the girl 59k LSU fans called a lying slut or whatnot.
It’s not insane. I do think turning around years later and saying LSU covered it up when she is admitting she didn’t pursue anything and the school reached out to her is a bit bogus.
I also think the BF is not going to end up being a very credible witness.
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