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re: CPM on Off the Bench

Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:20 am to
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:20 am to
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I think sometimes he tries to oversimplify things in his interviews because he assumes most of the people hearing them have a baseball iq of close to zero.


He must be reading this board
Posted by Number 9 Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2020
681 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:22 am to
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Yes, Paul. We know hitting a baseball is hard to do. That doesn’t mean it’s okay when half the lineup is hitting at or below 0.200 through the easiest part of the schedule.



It is just as hard on our openents. We are not comparing LSU batting averages against HS teams. We are comparing them to college teams.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77344 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:23 am to
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averages. He talks for about 2 minutes straight about how 30% hitters are the very best and how hard it is and how that’s unlike any other task in any other sport. It was to the point of patronizing. As if we can’t go back and look at past stats to see what good hitting teams average and how this one doesn’t come close right now

Perfect example. And ive heard him explain that like 6-7 times before.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70067 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:24 am to
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Are those teams more successful?


Not really.

The teams that are as successful as we are typically recruit the same way, so you see cycles with them too. Like Florida being bad last year.

Texas Tech leans hard on the JUCO players, but they also recruit HS guys. They recruit dirtbag, grinder type guys with a few high ceiling guys mixed in.

quote:

I’ve seen a decline in every day talent now for two seasons and possibly a third depending on this freshman class.

It's been a decline in production. We've had a black hole for a hitting coach for the two seasons prior to this, so we can't say with certainty that it's a decline in talent.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:28 am to
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Some of those quotes are disparaging, but im not surprised. He says stupid shite sometimes.


CPM just says exactly what is on his mind with zero coach speak. Sometimes it comes off wrong and he would be better off with just going with generic talking points. Every coach says the things he is saying in private. He just says it to the media as well.

My opinion if this is something that discourages a player and they can’t handle it. That’s a player I don’t want in my lineup anyway. If you can’t handle your coach saying the truth about how you’re playing to the media then how are you going to handle pressure situations against first rounders in the sec?
Posted by ArcticTiger
North Pole
Member since Nov 2018
1717 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:57 am to
Kind of sounds like he is making excuses and confirming what we suspect. That is that this team just does not have much talent.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84942 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:08 am to
It’s not that at all. Being mentally tough is huge for a baseball player. That doesn’t mean it’s okay for your coach to be the one to try and mentally break you down publicly. Skip was a HUGE proponent of belief and desire and confidence. If pretty good players could convince themselves that they are great, they can have confidence and overperform. While Skip could tear guys down When needed and expected a lot, he also built them up and he rarely spoke this way to the media because he knew his guys were listening. Hearing your coach 3 weeks into the season say that this team just isn’t as talented as he thought creates a mental hurdle that shouldn’t exist. Why try to hurt your team’s confidence like that???
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 11:10 am
Posted by bubbz
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
22810 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:37 am to
I’m pissed I missed this interview. Completely forgot about it at work. Thanks for the recap.

I’m pretty disappointed by this interview. I’ve held out hope for PM, but this doesn’t give me much hope at all.

It’s time for a change....
Posted by DhanTigers212
Member since Dec 2014
7418 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:38 am to
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This team isn’t as talented as he thought it would be Recruiting is a guessing game


If he truly said this then that is sad. I get it some of the guys YOU recruited didn’t pan out. Sounds like a bunch of whiny excuses a loser coach comes up with when he is losing. Ship the guy out of town I’m done with him.
Posted by Number 9 Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2020
681 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:42 am to
Everything in baseball is stacked against the hitters. Round ball, round bat, pitchers mound, and 60’-6” isn’t that far away.
To equalize things, you get three chances(strikes) but they put 8 guys in the field to prevent you from getting on base.
When you swing you are going to fail way more than you succeed.
How you handle and process all these failures determines your worth as a player.
Some players can handle it, but many can not.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84942 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:46 am to
“Anything you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon must, absolutely must come to pass.” – Skip

Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14661 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:46 am to
I agree with all that but the one thing a hitter has to have in the face of all that failure is confidence. If he doesn't believe he can overcome the odds stacked against him, then he won't be able to. And if your coach doesn't have confidence in you then it's hard to believe in yourself.
Posted by TigerAlum93
Member since Sep 2010
3004 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:52 am to
The college coaches themselves have acknowledged that they are offering kids too early. Some are practically begging the NCAA to make a rule to stop this, as they cannot help themselves. Its so competitive that they are in a rush to offer the next phenom, many who have yet to play a HS varsity game. So the kid who develops early gets the offer, when we all know how much young kids can change at that age in a year or two.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84942 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:53 am to
Lsu baseball isn’t offering 8th graders.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70067 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:57 am to
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Lsu baseball isn’t offering 8th graders.


Ehhh, maybe not formally, but we're scouting them. I know of at least 2 or 3 we're looking at. One happens to be the starting 2nd baseman at my alma mater. Smaller school, but still not common for an 8th grader to start on varsity.

ETA: There are some 7th graders we're looking at as well. And we're scouting some of the kids from that LLWS team.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 11:58 am
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70727 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:57 am to
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“We do have Zach Arnold back but I’m not sure how we will use him yet. I do like the way Cranford Has been coming along.”



I swear to God, if he dangles Arnold as the "missing piece" for the rest of this season...
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84942 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:58 am to
Well then he doesn’t apply to the guy’s second criteria that they haven’t played varsity yet.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70067 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 12:00 pm to
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Well then he doesn’t apply to the guy’s second criteria that they haven’t played varsity yet.


I guess, but we were scouting him this summer.

Different kid, but this 2025 guy could probably get an LSU offer in multiple sports. You may have heard of his dad (and mom): LINK
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
4536 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 12:01 pm to
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Most don’t face 90 mph. So you make your best guess. You recruit the best athletes you can. You don’t really know what you get until you send them out there and face a Texas pitcher throwing 93 with a hard slider.


CPM is spot on to this point. It is a jump going from JV to V pitching in HS, and obviously a huge jump going to college DIV I starting pitching. Team ran into some very good pitching in Houston, and will continue to do so in the SEC. We need to adjust and learn-fast IOT compete. Notice the results from those with experience (yrs) - Cabrera, Mathis, Beloso, and Garza. Milazzo has picked up the P faster. Doughty has also sat on some nice FBs that he has deposited over the fence. With more AB's these guys will get better. Gio seems to be seeing the ball better. I want to see Bianco bust out this series; kid has the pedigree. Hopefully we'll see better AB's and results this weekend.

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84942 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 12:02 pm to
Well duh. Sign him up!!
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