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re: Clear the Record on Woodward "Saving" Football
Posted on 3/21/25 at 8:56 am to drizztiger
Posted on 3/21/25 at 8:56 am to drizztiger
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The CoachMc cult is contrarian.
I really don’t see a pro Coach MM cult. I get accused of that simply for saying Woodward had no choice but to fire Wade or that it’s time to move on from Wade after 3 years
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But I think the Wade cult is because we won
Of course And the story broke in the middle of our best season since 2006. There was no way to claim innocence so people circled the wagons and began flinging accusations in all directions (Duke cheats too) as if that had any relevance. But some really doubled down and became irrational. It’s been 3 years the ship sailed time to look forward constantly attacking the AD is not going to change anything
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:30 am to JiminyCricket
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Woodward just doesn't seem like a guy that would want to fire a successful coach, that is making money for the program, just to install his guy, particularly when the program was in such a spot that he couldn't go get a big name coach and had to hire a mid-major coach. Just doesn't fit his M.O. seemingly.
No, no! Scott wanted Wade gone for no reason!
Posted on 3/21/25 at 9:55 am to That LSU Guy
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No, no! Scott wanted Wade gone for no reason!
It is pretty funny when you think about it. A guy known for hiring big name coaches hires a mid major, relatively unknown coach just because......
It makes no sense. 
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:01 am to ellessuuuu
The reason why this topic wont go away is that people are sick of this shite. Basketball threads need to continue daily through baseball AND football season until its so obvious that this city/fanbase has had enough of this crap. Cut off the NIL to the program until a change is made. Stop giving money to enable the leaders of a sunken ship
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:25 am to Shaq4prez
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The reason why this topic wont go away is that people are sick of this shite.
No, the reason this topic won't go away is because "a cloud of negativity" is an insufficient reason to fire WW.
Then we start with the speculation, inside sauces, "logical conclusions", etc., the fanbase can never get clean closure on the ordeal. (The fact that WW keeps winning and LSU keeps losing doesn't help either...lol.)
When closure is not reached conspiracy theories and speculation is spawn. You then have speculation that helps the administration via media that wants access to the athletic department and the speculation has gaps, which fuels more conspiracy theories.
As Will Wade said yesterday in his press conference about going to NC State, just be transparent.
I would have more respect for Woody if he just came out and said, "I didn’t bring Will Wade on board—he wasn’t my hire. When LSU renegotiated his contract, it included a clause allowing us to part ways if the basketball program received a Notice of Allegations (NOA) from the NCAA. That condition was triggered, and we exercised it, terminating Will Wade with cause to give the basketball program a fresh start. There’s no denying his success at LSU, but the ongoing NCAA investigations have become an overwhelming distraction as we work to elevate other sports at LSU. After careful consideration, I concluded that parting ways was the best path forward for both LSU and Will Wade. It’s unfortunate—I genuinely like him as a person and believe he’ll thrive elsewhere—but right now, this decision serves the interests of both parties."
Or something to that effect.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:31 am to ellessuuuu
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it listed the "self-imposed" actions taken by the university that were considered in relation to the sanctions, and not once was the termination of Wade mentioned ( IARP Press Release). Meaning, firing Wade was irrelevant to the severity of the sanctions issued.
IT WAS A SIDE DEAL.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:45 am to Kool Kaliper
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Please follow Wade to NCState, you guys so annoying.
Plan on it
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:54 am to ellessuuuu
A wall of shite without understanding one bit of how negotiations work. LSU had to self impose to save a worse outcome up to and including loss of playing on TV…
Wade was found guilty of Level 1 sanctions, which is why he was fired and he couldn’t sue the university. You do understand that, correct?
Wade was found guilty of Level 1 sanctions, which is why he was fired and he couldn’t sue the university. You do understand that, correct?
This post was edited on 3/21/25 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:55 am to Supermoto Tiger
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IT WAS A SIDE DEAL.
There were no "side deals" with the IARP. Had this been handled by the NCAA internally, absolutely that story would have been credible. This was not handled that way.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:57 am to Tiger1988
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A walking shirt without understanding one bit of how negotiations work. LSU had to self impose to save a worse outcome up to and including loss of playing on TV…
Wade was found guilty of Level 1 sanctions, which is why he was fired and he couldn’t sue the university. You do understand that, correct?
This isn't 1988, there are no more TV bans.
This wasn't a negotiation. Once the NOA was issued, there was no more negotiating and the NCAA was out of the picture. Wade wasn't fired until then. Who was LSU negotiating with?
Posted on 3/21/25 at 11:00 am to GumboPot
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When closure is not reached conspiracy theories and speculation is spawn. You then have speculation that helps the administration via media that wants access to the athletic department and the speculation has gaps, which fuels more conspiracy theories.
Mascona's rant yesterday was comical. He doing every thing he can sing the company line on this one.
His guy screwed in firing Wade, he screwed up hiring McMahon, he screwed not firing McMahon this year and he screwed up not doing everything in his power to bring Wade back this year (even if it didn't work).
It would be nice if people like Mascona were more interested in doing than job than kissing Scott's arse.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 11:13 am to ellessuuuu
Spending money on Wade at NC St. is a much better use of resources than throwing it away on McMahon. He will just choose the wrong players, coach them poorly, fail to inspire them, and blame the prior coach as well as lack of funding for his poor results.
Donors should not spend any money on bb NIL until McMahon is gone.
Donors should not spend any money on bb NIL until McMahon is gone.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 11:13 am to ellessuuuu
Spending money on Wade at NC St. is a much better use of resources than throwing it away on McMahon. He will just choose the wrong players, coach them poorly, fail to inspire them, and blame the prior coach as well as lack of funding for his poor results.
Donors should not spend any money on bb NIL until McMahon is gone.
Donors should not spend any money on bb NIL until McMahon is gone.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 11:14 am to GumboPot
Of course there's been no transparency. That's why most people are pointing directly at Woodward. If his hand was forced, then that should have been communicated. The holier than thou elitist mentality that you don't owe the people that pay your salary an explanation is absolutely disgusting. And yes, every damn taxpayer in the state pays his over bloated salary. The salary isn't the only thing that's over bloated either
This post was edited on 3/21/25 at 11:18 am
Posted on 3/21/25 at 11:19 am to WaydownSouth
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Plan on it
You need help, one less Wade fan posting...
Posted on 3/21/25 at 11:41 am to ellessuuuu
Saving football is a total idiotic narrative created by white baseball fans because they have no clue about basketball but like football. Somehow media personalities parrot this stupidity. It will go down in history as “FACT” with zero basis in reality.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 11:49 am to H-Town Tiger
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I agree, getting 3 different schools in the NCAA is impressive but it’s not impossible to win at LSU, we just have to find the another guy and guarantee you they are out there.
The problem is no one within the athletic department, or any other decision maker, has demonstrated any kind of ability or vision on how to build and especially maintain a successful men's basketball program. Eddie Nunez identified and hired Wade at LSU and he is long gone and now at Houston. Wade ruffled feathers because he kept beating the drum about how far behind LSU is in infrastructure and facilities, and it's obvious LSU is still asleep at the wheel with their recent pathetic admission of lack of financial support of the program. It's tough to win at basketball at LSU right now, because it goes so far beyond Xs and Os, especially as long as people like Collis Temple and Dale Brown have university influence. We can dig our heads in the sand and pretend that lack of NIL money is the only thing holding us back, but Johnny Jones couldn't win with a pretty loaded roster either because he frankly was a terrible coach in this league. It's truly inexcusable and malpractice to be this bad at literally everything to do with your second highest revenue generating sport. But hey, Woodward is one of us and the media won't dare question him and Mascona will cover for him because they went to the same high school. I'm pissed that they fired Wade, but I'm way more pissed that LSU is so incredibly incompetent at fielding a competitive men's basketball program my entire life and so much of it is self-inflicted.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 11:56 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Donors committed money to pay McMahon’s contract. To fire him and hire someone else, they have to agree to that.
In other words, his ridiculously long contract is preventing LSU from firing the worst coach in MBB history. Well, that certainly absolves Woodward.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 11:59 am to ellessuuuu
I don't really know the semantics of it all, but I know this.
The Will Wade situation was bad for Scott. Combining it with McMahon's current track record, 14 SEC schools making the tourney, BK being in neutral/perennial 9 or 10 win purgatory, and now what is likely to be in the middle of surging SEC Baseball programs...
Kim Mulkey, track and field, and gymnastics aren't really moving the needle.
The Will Wade situation was bad for Scott. Combining it with McMahon's current track record, 14 SEC schools making the tourney, BK being in neutral/perennial 9 or 10 win purgatory, and now what is likely to be in the middle of surging SEC Baseball programs...
Kim Mulkey, track and field, and gymnastics aren't really moving the needle.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 12:06 pm to GumboPot
Wade got fired, WITH CAUSE! It shouldn't matter how it's said.
Wade is to blame in ALL of this.
Wade is to blame in ALL of this.
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