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re: CBS & USA Today Articles - "not good things (are coming to LSU)"

Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:20 am to
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:20 am to
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Define "strong arse offer".



Early playing time
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:33 am to
The Big Boys always skate.

In the college basketball world, LSU is a LITTLE BOY. Plus, Wade was putting together a roster that could possibly contend for a Final 4 berth next year.

That can't be allowed to happen. The "Little Boys" have to be taught a lesson.
Posted by ArcticTiger
North Pole
Member since Nov 2018
1726 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:43 am to
There is STILL NO EVIDENCE!
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 11:10 am to
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There is STILL NO EVIDENCE!


Really? You should read more. What exactly do you think is the NCAA's definition of "evidence?" Let me help you out.....If you contact the NCAA and say you have knowledge of WW's offer (exact dollar amount, etc), THAT IS EVIDENCE.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93655 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 11:21 am to
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.If you contact the NCAA and say you have knowledge of WW's offer (exact dollar amount, etc), THAT IS EVIDENCE.

To your knowledge has anyone done this yet?
Posted by BigTimer23
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2015
1977 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 11:29 am to
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What information? Don't confuse Dickie V's LSU hate or the rest of the media hoping for a scandal with some sort of insider knowledge.


Look Dick Vitale sucks and clearly has an irrational issue with LSU, but you think he is making up that he has a source telling him about the notice of allegations coming?
This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 11:32 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66404 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 12:05 pm to
The NCAA isn’t the US Legal system but putting out sanctions for innuendo without other evidence is BS.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

Common sense dictates that we heard the worst.

Correct...We certainly heard WW discuss his strong offer.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3287 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 12:53 pm to
Explanation (even though it is bs): He did that to keep his contact with Dawkins, who has contacts with an array of top players and key eybl coaches.

This is hard for you to grasp, because you are dense. The more of these Dawkins types that Wade can keep giggling on the phone and saying to others how great of a guy Wade is the more it helps recruiting. Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES would Wade ever cheat. No money trail, denials from all parties, what does the NCAA have. Answer that question objectively with the above scenario. We might get docked a few scholarships over a couple years, but that is iffy, and only as a weak face saving measure by the NCAA. It's possible LSU may be ok with the minor penalty to put it on the past.

Understand, I am POSITIVE all of the top players receive illegal inducements to play in college. That goes for football too, homie.

This comes down to what the NCAA can prove. You live in some fantasy world where you think you can call the NCAA and say Coach K has personally handed thousands of $ to multiple recruits over the last 35 years. That could very well prompt an investigation, but some idiot saying "I seent it" , won't cause sanctions without further proof.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 1:57 pm to
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I am POSITIVE all of the top players receive illegal inducements to play in college. That goes for football too, homie.

Then the NCAA should "clean house." It may take some time but it must happen!
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:00 pm to
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No money trail, denials from all parties, what does the NCAA have.

The NCAA has WW admitting a strong offer in the context of breaking the rules. Anyone with any sense knows what WW was talking about AND the NCAA DOES NOT NEED PROOF (the kind you are talking about, AKA murder trial evidence).
Posted by lsutigertalk
At Death Valley
Member since Apr 2004
5472 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:01 pm to
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Then the NCAA should "clean house." It may take some time but it must happen!

Or maybe the people who run the NCAA shouldn’t make billions and more money should be in the athletes hands.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

The NCAA isn’t the US Legal system but putting out sanctions for innuendo without other evidence is BS.


According to you.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:04 pm to
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To your knowledge has anyone done this yet?

Nope. Do you have knowledge every single person having "any information" (1st, 2nd, or 3rd hand) have remained silent?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93655 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:06 pm to
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Do you have knowledge every single person having "any information" (1st, 2nd, or 3rd hand) have remained silent?

I never claimed that I did. You are the one that claimed that there was evidence against Will Wade. Now you're saying that you don't know that there is any evidence. Make up your mind.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:13 pm to
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You are the one that claimed that there was evidence against Will Wade.

Yes, I did. I watched the HBO special and heard WW speak. THAT is evidence. Some here do not want to accept this as evidence. Maybe not good enough for a murder trial, but MORE than enough for the NCAA.
quote:

Now you're saying that you don't know that there is any evidence.

I said I was not aware of "additional evidence." WW incriminating himself is evidence AND is enough for the NCAA.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:15 pm to
You might want to read this one too....
LINK
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93655 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

I said I was not aware of "additional evidence."

Wrong. Here is what you said...



You said that if someone calls the NCAA that is evidence in response to someone saying that there is no evidence. Now you're saying you don't know if anyone has done this as evidence yet. Again, make up your mind.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66404 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:39 pm to
You’re cool with the NCAA sanctioning LSU for innuendo?

Maybe take the middle part out of your account name.
Posted by chipdouglas96
C-Town
Member since Jun 2011
895 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 3:12 pm to
So then explain how it works...does wade get the opportunity to explain/defend himself or does the NCAA just come in and say your guilty? If he gives an explanation, do they just say we don’t believe you?
I just don’t see any physical evidence other than a phone conversation. Is there a money trail? Does Dawkins have evidence of payment to wade? If so he’d be going to jail like the other coaches. Did Wade give money to Dawkins? There’s never been any report of that. The smart family was interviewed by NCAA and they reviewed the family’s bank records and cleared smart to play.
Every other instance in this story has specifics, money changed hands, people went to prison, were convicted of felonies.
Even if the give a notice of allegations, what if LSU disagrees with them just like Kansas just did?
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