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re: CBS & USA Today Articles - "not good things (are coming to LSU)"
Posted on 6/7/20 at 3:46 pm to Irish LSU Fan
Posted on 6/7/20 at 3:46 pm to Irish LSU Fan
Oh ok.
So what were the details?
So what were the details?
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 4:23 pm to chipdouglas96
As I've attempted to explain to irish, all Wade has to say is that he was joking with Dawkins, to placate him. For goodness sake, they are both LAUGHING
if you heard the tape of the call. Wade is rapid-firing jokes 1-2-3, and Dawkins is giggling like a middle school girl. We also don't have the full context of the call.
There is 0% chance LSU reinstates Smart, or keeps Naz eligible if there is proof of illegal benefits to the players. Also, the good point was made that other coaches have been convicted and sent to prison for taking bribes. Wade or no one on his staff have been connected to this kind of behavior in any report I've seen, and several other coaches HAVE BEEN.
At most, we are docked a few scholarships, and that's only because the NCAA can be unpredictable in handing out punishment. Sean Miller has gone NOWHERE, Arizona hasn't even received an NOA to my knowledge, and his taped calls were as bad or worse than Wade's (though not pumped to the max by the media). Wade and Miller also share the same attorney, who has kept Miller's arse out of the fire.
if you heard the tape of the call. Wade is rapid-firing jokes 1-2-3, and Dawkins is giggling like a middle school girl. We also don't have the full context of the call.
There is 0% chance LSU reinstates Smart, or keeps Naz eligible if there is proof of illegal benefits to the players. Also, the good point was made that other coaches have been convicted and sent to prison for taking bribes. Wade or no one on his staff have been connected to this kind of behavior in any report I've seen, and several other coaches HAVE BEEN.
At most, we are docked a few scholarships, and that's only because the NCAA can be unpredictable in handing out punishment. Sean Miller has gone NOWHERE, Arizona hasn't even received an NOA to my knowledge, and his taped calls were as bad or worse than Wade's (though not pumped to the max by the media). Wade and Miller also share the same attorney, who has kept Miller's arse out of the fire.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 5:41 pm to TigerLunatik
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Wrong. Here is what you said...
OK numb-nuts. That was a conversation about ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE beyond WW's phone call (admission of guilt). Wow. Read the entire post/conversation.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 5:42 pm to SammyTiger
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You’re cool with the NCAA sanctioning LSU for innuendo?
Yes. And so should you....if you were a real LSU fan (with character).
Posted on 6/7/20 at 5:48 pm to chipdouglas96
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does wade get the opportunity to explain/defend himself or does the NCAA just come in and say your guilty?
Yes. That is exactly how it works. You may not like it, but that is how it works.
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I just don’t see any physical evidence other than a phone conversation.
The NCAA does not require this for guilt.
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Is there a money trail?
The NCAA does not require this for guilt.
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Does Dawkins have evidence of payment to wade?
The NCAA does not require this for guilt.
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Did Wade give money to Dawkins?
The NCAA does not require this for guilt.
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The smart family was interviewed by NCAA and they reviewed the family’s bank records and cleared smart to play.
This has nothing to do with anything.
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Every other instance in this story has specifics, money changed hands, people went to prison, were convicted of felonies.
Most NCAA probes resulting in sanctions do not involve the court system.
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what if LSU disagrees with them just like Kansas just did?
This part of what the NCAA does is all for show, you are guilty.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 5:49 pm to Irish LSU Fan
I’m still waiting for my response
Posted on 6/7/20 at 5:54 pm to tigahlovah
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all Wade has to say is that he was joking with Dawkins, to placate him.
The joke is that you believe this. Very sad.
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There is 0% chance LSU reinstates Smart, or keeps Naz eligible if there is proof of illegal benefits to the players.
It has been said 1000 times...but I'll say it again, the NCAA DOES NOT NEED PROOF. The NCAA is NOT A COURT OF LAW.
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Wade or no one on his staff have been connected to this kind of behavior in any report I've seen, and several other coaches HAVE BEEN.
Are you kidding? What was WW talking about on that call?
Posted on 6/7/20 at 7:01 pm to Irish LSU Fan
Why in your opinion is this taking so long?
Posted on 6/7/20 at 7:04 pm to Adam Banks
Why did it take so long for them to put the hammer on Okie State?
Posted on 6/7/20 at 7:15 pm to The First Cut
Okie state got its notice of allegations a long time ago. All the “damning” information on LSU has been out for a long time. What’s taking so long if as they say it’s so obvious LSu and wade is going down?
His and your whole argument is they don’t need definitive proof because this is not a court of law
His and your whole argument is they don’t need definitive proof because this is not a court of law
This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 6/7/20 at 7:54 pm to Irish LSU Fan
So why don’t we all call the NCAA and tell them saban is giving a barber in Amite money to steer players to Alabama?
If they don’t need proof.... the they should be put on probation
If they don’t need proof.... the they should be put on probation
Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:18 pm to Irish LSU Fan
Zion can testify that his mother is consulting firm received $10 million in payments, and nothing will happen to Duke. They are truly bullet proof
Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:46 pm to Irish LSU Fan
Irish, you really astound me with your stupidity.
I am POSITIVE Wade (along with every major coach) has broken the rules on recruiting. This goes all the way back to John Wooden, who was as dirty as it gets. I was just demonstrating to your slow arse how his phone call(s) can be explained when questioned by the NCAA. Every elite player in basketball and football receives illegal inducements to attend the college they select. This is why it's such a joke when bleeding heart lib sportswriters bang the drum for paying the "poor" players. The ones that deserve to get paid ARE getting paid.
When Wade properly explains the call, EVERYBODY AND THEY GRANDMA denies getting paid to go to LSU, and there is NO MONEY TRAIL, there is no case left. As I've suggested before, go root for Cornell or Colgate, because they may not cheat. And if you think Johnny Jones was some paragon of virtue, he was mainly responsible for burying our program in the late 90's with his rule breaking. He also recruited 3 players as hc here that appeared on a list of players paid by shoe companies to go to certain schools.
You must LOVE the movie Hoosiers. Those were the good ole days. These schools have been buying players for at least the last 50 years. I don't think you can handle how the sausage is made in big time college sports.
I am POSITIVE Wade (along with every major coach) has broken the rules on recruiting. This goes all the way back to John Wooden, who was as dirty as it gets. I was just demonstrating to your slow arse how his phone call(s) can be explained when questioned by the NCAA. Every elite player in basketball and football receives illegal inducements to attend the college they select. This is why it's such a joke when bleeding heart lib sportswriters bang the drum for paying the "poor" players. The ones that deserve to get paid ARE getting paid.
When Wade properly explains the call, EVERYBODY AND THEY GRANDMA denies getting paid to go to LSU, and there is NO MONEY TRAIL, there is no case left. As I've suggested before, go root for Cornell or Colgate, because they may not cheat. And if you think Johnny Jones was some paragon of virtue, he was mainly responsible for burying our program in the late 90's with his rule breaking. He also recruited 3 players as hc here that appeared on a list of players paid by shoe companies to go to certain schools.
You must LOVE the movie Hoosiers. Those were the good ole days. These schools have been buying players for at least the last 50 years. I don't think you can handle how the sausage is made in big time college sports.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:55 pm to chipdouglas96
It's truly hilarious that irish thinks just a phone call from someone who knows something can land a program on probation without supporting evidence to go along with the tipster. I have gone to the Boo Williams eybl several times. Do you know I saw John Calipari hand a recruit $15,000 in the bathroom while I was taking a piss. I also saw coach k open hand slap a player in the face that he was teaching post moves to, AND he called him the n-word. That's all irish needs for proof on those 2 coaches. If I can just find the number to NCAA hq, those 2 programs are TOAST baby.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 11:16 pm to tigahlovah
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It's truly hilarious that irish thinks just a phone call from someone who knows something can land a program on probation without supporting evidence to go along with the tipster.
There "IS" supporting evidence, dummy. WW's own voice on the wiretaps. When LSU receives its letter from the NCAA (as multiple sources have now reported), what will that say about your views on evidence?
Posted on 6/7/20 at 11:25 pm to tigahlovah
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I am POSITIVE Wade (along with every major coach) has broken the rules on recruiting.
And because you say it, that makes it true?
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This goes all the way back to John Wooden, who was as dirty as it gets.
Wrong.
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Every elite player in basketball and football receives illegal inducements to attend the college they select.
And because you say it, that makes it true?
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When Wade properly explains the call, EVERYBODY AND THEY GRANDMA denies getting paid to go to LSU, and there is NO MONEY TRAIL, there is no case left.
I wonder what you will say when LSU receives the NCAA letter?
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As I've suggested before, go root for Cornell or Colgate, because they may not cheat.
THIS is your solution to cheating. Either ignore it or go and cheer for another school that does not cheat. YOU are certainly part of the problem and YOUR attitude is what makes the cheating problem difficult to resolve. You can denigrate, insult, and make fun of us who want integrity.....but we will not "go away" simply because you choose to wallow in the gutter of dishonesty. LSU would be a far better place if YOU would just go away.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 11:27 pm to chipdouglas96
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So why don’t we all call the NCAA and tell them saban is giving a barber in Amite money to steer players to Alabama?
If they don’t need proof.... the they should be put on probation
Well, if you can also provide a recording of Saban bragging about his strong arse offers, then you might just have something.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 11:28 pm to Adam Banks
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Why in your opinion is this taking so long?
No idea......except what Dickie V. said.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 11:37 pm to chipdouglas96
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So then explain how it works...does wade get the opportunity to explain/defend himself or does the NCAA just come in and say your guilty?
They just say you are guilty. The NCAA "pretends" to listen to your plea, but they have already completed their investigation and you are guilty.
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If he gives an explanation, do they just say we don’t believe you?
Yes.
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I just don’t see any physical evidence other than a phone conversation. Is there a money trail?
Don't know......and the NCAA does not need one.
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Does Dawkins have evidence of payment to wade?
Don't know. It does not matter.
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Did Wade give money to Dawkins?
Don't know. It does not matter.
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The smart family was interviewed by NCAA and they reviewed the family’s bank records and cleared smart to play.
Irrelevant.
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Every other instance in this story has specifics, money changed hands, people went to prison, were convicted of felonies.
The vast majority of NCAA rules violations/sanctions do not involve the court system/convictions/jail time.
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Even if the give a notice of allegations, what if LSU disagrees with them just like Kansas just did?
Irrelevant. It does not matter. It will not matter.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 11:52 pm to Irish LSU Fan
You're still on this? What is it about WW that makes you despise him so? Any time the man's name is even mentioned, you show and start with all this speculation even though you dress it up and try to sell it as it being "evidence."
You yourself said there's no evidence.
Because you saw it on a tv show.
Give it a freaking rest. Geez, man.
You yourself said there's no evidence.
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You are the one that claimed that there was evidence against Will Wade.
Yes, I did. I watched the HBO special and heard WW speak. THAT is evidence. Some here do not want to accept this as evidence. Maybe not good enough for a murder trial, but MORE than enough for the NCAA.
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Now you're saying that you don't know that there is any evidence.
I said I was not aware of "additional evidence." WW incriminating himself is evidence AND is enough for the NCAA.
Because you saw it on a tv show.
Give it a freaking rest. Geez, man.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 12:21 am
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