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re: Basing things off current trends…the lineup when starting SEC play should be

Posted on 3/5/23 at 7:55 pm to
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 7:55 pm to
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He hasn’t done anything to show that he’s an elite outfielder. He’s better than Jobert, but that’s not saying a ton. Maybe he can become elite, but as of now he’s probably just an average outfielder.


Playing outfield isn’t just going and shagging fly balls. If that were the case, every power hitting DH in the history of the game would have taken up a corner outfield spot.

Morgan probably hadn’t ever taken a fly ball until this season.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 7:55 pm to
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I get it, we have people in this thread that are posting lineups that have Beloso, Jobert and Jones in them, because everyone loves the long ball (even though Jobert and Jones' feast or famine approach won't play throughout a full SEC slate), but defense matters. Also, Nippolt historically draws a lot of walks and doesn't K. That's important for a 9 hole guy. He's not Hal Hughes or Alex Milazzo in the lineup.

Flipping the line-up with walks is definitely a consideration besides the defense you mentioned. Playing Morgan at first and putting Pearson in LF will give me better defense IF White can play third. It does come a little dicey if he can’t. Jobert at 3rd is not doing it for me. LHP kill him and you might as well all his ABs as outs.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 7:57 pm to
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Someone didn't watch Jobert in Round Rock


Jobert misplayed a ball in RF vs Iowa that cost us two runs. Didn't go as an error but I thought he could have snagged it.

OTOH, he was one of the few hitters that didn't look over matched vs the Iowa pitcher. Got our only hit.

Streaky hitter. Wished he could get some consistency.

Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 7:59 pm to
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Jobert can play a good LF all day long and offer much more at the plate.


Can he though?
This post was edited on 3/5/23 at 8:00 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 8:00 pm to
Like I said, If Pearson figures it out and White is cleared to play 3B, then put Pearson in LF, keep Dugas at 2B and Nippolt to the bench. But if it comes down to Jobert or Nippolt at 3B, I want Nippolt there.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
25230 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 8:01 pm to
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Like I said, If Pearson figures it out and White is cleared to play 3B, then put Pearson in LF, keep Dugas at 2B and Nippolt to the bench. But if it comes down to Jobert or Nippolt at 3B, I want Nippolt there.

Agree 100%
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44983 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 8:02 pm to
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Like I said, If Pearson figures it out and White is cleared to play 3B, then put Pearson in LF, keep Dugas at 2B and Nippolt to the bench. But if it comes down to Jobert or Nippolt at 3B, I want Nippolt there.


At this point Dugas is a lock at 2nd. He’s been good defensively and his bat is too valuable to keep out of the lineup.

He’s what we all wish Jobert was.
This post was edited on 3/5/23 at 8:03 pm
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 8:04 pm to
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At this point Dugas is a lock at 2nd.


He's a lock in the lineup, but you have some flexibility in that you can either play him at 2B or LF.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 8:06 pm to
Morgan played some OF in HS and again with the national team this summer. And again in scrimmages this offseason.

He’s better in the OF than Pearson or Jobert and offers some lineup flexibility if he’s kept out there.

Jones has played well at 1B and Beloso in the past has been serviceable, if they wanted to go that route
Posted by BeachTiger2018
Pinellas County FL
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 9:39 pm to
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The only thing that would make it better is Dugas hitting 5 hole, IMO.


Dugas would be a very natural and ideally the best fit in the 5 hole. But then the questions is who leads off with Crews and White at 2 & 3? At this point it looks like the only option would be Neal, who is 3rd on the team in OBP with .514 (not counting Beloso until he has a few more ABs) and leading the team with 11 walks...but Neal also is second on the team in Ks, and frankly is still a bit of an unknown until he faces SEC pitching. Another option would be moving Morgan up to leadoff followed by Crews, White, and Dugas hitting cleanup. Im kind of partial to Dugas leading off over Tre at this point though because of the bonus of the home run pop at the top of the order.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 9:48 pm to
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The only thing that would make it better is Dugas hitting 5 hole, IMO.



I want Dugas, Tre, Crews and Tanks getting the most AB's out of anyone in our lineup. Batting him 5th doesn't do that.
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
10979 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 9:50 pm to
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You don’t need elite defense at a spot where the most outs in a game happen?
So I guess the staff is wrong for playing him in left. Lol That's where he's projected to play as a pro, and that's where he needs to be.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
73791 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 9:57 pm to
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That's where he's projected to play as a pro,


Not necessarily. People only say that because he's not a power hitter and the archetype for a 1B is big power hitter. However, Tre's elite 1B glove could make some teams become more open minded.

He has said himself he hopes to play 1B in the pros.
Posted by Gallant_Gringo
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 10:59 pm to
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Like I said, If Pearson figures it out and White is cleared to play 3B, then put Pearson in LF, keep Dugas at 2B and Nippolt to the bench. But if it comes down to Jobert or Nippolt at 3B, I want Nippolt there.


At 3rd base I would prefer Nippolt for sure. But Tanks will be back there shortly so that argument is void.

Tanks, Thompson, Dugas, Morgan, Neal, Crews, Beloso, and Kling should all be in the lineup right now based on their most recent play.

Morgan needs to be playing 1st. He’s an All American there.

So then argument is who should be the 9th guy?? They would play LF.

Jones, Nippolt, Jobert, Pearson, Frey, Paul, Stevenson??


Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
73791 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 11:05 pm to
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They would play LF.



If it's Nippolt, he'd play 2B and Dugas would be in LF.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
41729 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 6:48 am to
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we have people in this thread that are posting lineups that have Beloso, Jobert and Jones in them, because everyone loves the long ball (even though Jobert and Jones' feast or famine approach won't play throughout a full SEC slate), but defense matters.

I agree with you here, but I'm not sure Nippolt's defense is that much better than Dugas' that it justifies swapping Jones' or Jobert's bat for Nippolt's. A lot depends on if Jones can become more competitive at the plate and if Nippolt can start finding grass.

I think this team will be better if White's injury keeps him at DH. That puts Nippolt at third, which is a gigantic improvement over White. To me, THAT is worth suffering Nippolt's offense.
Posted by DCTXLA
Member since Jul 2022
3459 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 6:49 am to
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But Tanks will be back there shortly
we don’t know that at all
Posted by DCTXLA
Member since Jul 2022
3459 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 6:51 am to
I’d like to see Beloso get some time at first right now. Jones’ ceiling at the plate is off the charts and he’s made some good plays at first but he’s striking out in half his PAs. That’s not great.
Posted by GeauxTime9
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2010
6493 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 7:28 am to
My preferred scenario when White is back at 3rd.

Leave Tre in LF.
Jones/Beloso at 1B.
Kling in RF.
DH whoever is hot and/or has the best matchup out of Beloso, Jobert, Jones, Frey.
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
4748 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:15 am to
Jobert platoon with Kling for LH/RH matchup, but otherwise this lineup looks pretty darn strong.

I wouldn't sleep on Frey either as a RH bat. The guy is squaring up the ball and taking advantage of his ABs.

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