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re: Arkansas has 2 football players on its roster that had a brief stint in a mini camp
Posted on 9/11/26 at 2:01 pm to mdomingue
Posted on 9/11/26 at 2:01 pm to mdomingue
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Which means these threads are kind of pointless
not really cause the sec is still drawing a blurry arse line that is not even written into the rules correctly.
those kids at rookie camps did sign an nfl agreement and a waiver. Some of them do get compensated for travel same as what xavier harris got gas money. and the sec is still not applying their own rules to softball, baseball, and basketball to which the commissioner admits to not knowing what a professional even is and the judges in the court room admits a hugely flawed line of what is professional and what is not anymore do to the huge money athletes are receiving in the ncaa now.
Posted on 9/11/26 at 2:26 pm to mdomingue
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We can argue whether the line that the SEC has drawn is stupid, but the line is signing a UDFA contract. Minicamp participation does not require signing a UDFA contract.
They used the terminology "sign a contract with a pro player."
A participation waiver is a contract. All guys who participate in a minicamp or rookie tryout must sign one. Shemar Stewart Minicamp Waiver Conflict
Posted on 9/11/26 at 2:42 pm to TigersJump
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The SEC retroactively added that attending any mini camp in any capacity disqualifies a player.
Source? Link?
Posted on 9/11/26 at 4:13 pm to MintBerry Crunch
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They used the terminology "sign a contract with a pro player." A participation waiver is a contract. All guys who participate in a minicamp or rookie tryout must sign one. Shemar Stewart Minicamp Waiver Conflict
The terminology is signed a professional contract, which a waiver is not.
In fact the article you linked specifically discusses that most teams have as part of the waiver an agreement to pay the player if hurt prior to being cut as thought a rookie contract had been signed in order to protect the player during contract negotiations.
The two players all the talking heads are calling pro players are getting screwed because they only did what they did because they thought they were out of eligibility. But they did sign a professional contract, which is why they had to be waived rather than cut.
Posted on 9/11/26 at 4:22 pm to mdomingue
You realize you are likely explaining this to people who barely know the alphabet right? No matter how many times you say it, no matter how many different ways you try to explain it, they will never ever get it.
Posted on 9/11/26 at 4:25 pm to gumbeaux
If they looked at a mincamp or a preseason game, they can't play college fb
Posted on 9/11/26 at 4:26 pm to gumbeaux
this is exactly why we need a new commisioner; someone who will oversee setting the rules and equally enforcing them. sankey just sits around and collects his paycheck.
Posted on 9/11/26 at 4:55 pm to gumbeaux
Yeah but the SEC has a hard on only for the French Catholics.
Posted on 9/11/26 at 4:56 pm to gumbeaux
Who cares. Let’s just beat the frick out of them.
Posted on 9/11/26 at 5:00 pm to ProjectP2294
Are we forgetting LSU has had 2 pro baseball players on their roster at different times? One brought us our first natty in the 21st century.
Posted on 9/11/26 at 5:02 pm to Breadstick Gun
Read “The Ruling Class” by Gaetano Mosca. See also Vilfredo Pareto and Robert Michels. They are known as the Italian School of Elitism.
Posted on 9/11/26 at 5:08 pm to QuothTheRaven
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Are we forgetting LSU has had 2 pro baseball players on their roster at different times? One brought us our first natty in the 21st century.
LSU has never rostered a pro baseball player on their baseball roster, fall or otherwise.
You slow?
Posted on 9/11/26 at 5:11 pm to gumbeaux
It doesn't matter if they're on the roster. Did they play or nit? That's what the SEC cares about. Unless your LSU, then apparently they can be rostered but with threats allegations
Posted on 9/11/26 at 6:37 pm to mdomingue
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You have some bad information. You sign a waiver, not an employment contract at a minicamp
The player waiver is indeed a contract. No, it's not a player or employment contract but it is undoubtedly, inarguably an NFL contract.
Posted on 9/11/26 at 6:39 pm to OysterPoBoy
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Somehow they’ll suspend Lane for this.
Maybe Lane Kiffin shouldn’t have coerced those 700 NFL veterans to file suits all over the country.
Posted on 9/11/26 at 7:19 pm to gumbeaux
That article highlights a very different reality than what was being tossed around on that message board: the actual source of the confusion is a complex legal battle over a fifth year of eligibility for the high school class of 2022, not players coming off NFL minicamp stints.
Safeties Caleb Wooden and Sean Williams found themselves fighting the NCAA in court via a temporary restraining order to secure their eligibility to play for Arkansas. Because of shifting federal and state court rulings regarding the "5-for-5" eligibility model, players from that recruiting class were caught in a temporary legal limbo.
So, while the internet rumor mill turned a unique eligibility lawsuit into exaggerated "pro camp" fiction, the actual headline is a legal fight over an extra collegiate season granted by the courts, not professional tryouts.
Safeties Caleb Wooden and Sean Williams found themselves fighting the NCAA in court via a temporary restraining order to secure their eligibility to play for Arkansas. Because of shifting federal and state court rulings regarding the "5-for-5" eligibility model, players from that recruiting class were caught in a temporary legal limbo.
So, while the internet rumor mill turned a unique eligibility lawsuit into exaggerated "pro camp" fiction, the actual headline is a legal fight over an extra collegiate season granted by the courts, not professional tryouts.
Posted on 9/11/26 at 7:39 pm to pseudocajun
Thanks ChatGPT. Very helpful. 
Posted on 9/11/26 at 8:21 pm to lostinbr
Ha, you can’t factually dismiss my response so you resort to disinformation.
Posted on 9/11/26 at 8:35 pm to mdomingue
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We can argue whether the line that the SEC has drawn is stupid, but the line is signing a UDFA contract. Minicamp participation does not require signing a UDFA contract
The SEC's eligibility standards largely reflect the NCAA's. The NCAA argued in court that if a player participated in a mini-camp, he is ineligible.

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