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re: Arkansas has 2 football players on its roster that had a brief stint in a mini camp

Posted on 9/11/26 at 10:48 am to
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
49256 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 10:48 am to
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I don't think signing an UDFA contract or not is the line either bc a professional athlete in a different sport can come back to college and play without any issues.


That has been allowable for decades, so long as it is a different sport than the one you are going to play in. Josh Booty did that in the late 90s for LSU. So did Matt Mauck.

Signing a professional contract in the sport you want to play in college is the line they are trying to draw.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
180293 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 10:51 am to
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Signing a professional contract in the sport you want to play in college is the line they are trying to draw.


basketball?
baseball?
softball?

all appear to be NOT drawing the same line.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72723 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 10:54 am to
My brother in Christ I agree with you. All I’m saying is we can keep posting this shite until we’re blue in the face. They don’t care.
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
11708 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 10:57 am to
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It’s crazy that so many can’t seem to figure this out.


There are no levels of eligibility.

A player is either eligible under the NCAA/SEC rules or not.

For example Chambliss was ruled ineligible by the NCAA and SEC. Same as the 2 "NFL" players.

Selectively threatening LSU while doing absolutely nothing to the other schools playing ineligible players is a sickening double standard that deserves ramifications for the governing bodies.

Posted by bbnitiger
Member since Feb 2024
418 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 10:57 am to
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They neither withdrew nor declared for the draft.


That’s what’s wrong with their hastily thrown together rule. They try to use language that covers all sports (except baseball). However, the rules for the drafts, contracts, tryouts are different in each sport. Their rule is very ambiguous. They said sign a contract and not UDFA contract. They say entering the draft and withdrawing from the draft, when that is not a thing for players that were told they were out of eligibility. Instead of overreacting, they needed to take their time and put together a rule that makes sense and doesn’t have all the gray areas.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57460 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 10:58 am to
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Minicamp participation does not require signing a UDFA contract.


You cannot participate in any workout without signing an NFL contract.

if the argument is in the semantics of what type of NFL contract is okay to sign, it's not a valid argument.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72723 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 10:58 am to
Dude I agree. But they’re not doing anything about those players.
Posted by Portcityblues
Member since Jan 2017
1868 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:02 am to
Since the NCAA changed their stance and declare that mini camp participants are not eligible anyway then they should be ineligible. However, so far, the SEC drew the line at training camp participants. Seeing as how the SEC is clearly going against the NCAA eligibility rules then I think the NCAA needs to file a motion to expel Commissioner Sankey due to his clear lack of respect for the NCAA as a governing organization and for his lack of control over the institutions he is over in his league by encouraging them to roster professional players that participated in minicamps.
Posted by Jauquismos
Member since Jul 2023
1723 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:06 am to
No, we need that easy W
Posted by buffbraz
Member since Nov 2005
5770 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:09 am to
The NCAA has allowed, for years now, players to participate in NFL tryouts and return to their college team, AS LONG AS THEY HAD ELIGIBILITY REMAINING. The catch 22, and what is being argued by the Kentucky lawyer, is that the player in question on the Kentucky team DOES have court ordered eligibility. The NCAA is arguing the minicamp makes the player ineligible bc the player did not have eligibility at the time he entered the minicamp. It’s a convoluted, semantical mess.
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“After initial full-time collegiate enrollment, an individual who has eligibility remaining may try out with a professional athletics team (or participate in a combine including that team) at any time, provided the individual does not miss class.” “The individual may receive actual and necessary expenses in conjunction with one 48-hour tryout per professional team (or a combine including that team).” “A tryout may extend beyond 48 hours if the individual self-finances additional expenses… A self-financed tryout may be for any length of time, provided the individual does not miss class.”


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Posted by LSUJames
Benton, Arkansas
Member since May 2024
384 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:12 am to
Josh Booty did that in the late 90s for LSU. So did Matt Mauck.



And Weinke what was he 40? But somehow signing a baseball contract is not a professional contract currently according to the rule. So baseball could abuse the crap out of this. We could see tons of AAA players drafted out of HS say hell I think I want to try college now.
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
8709 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:13 am to
The problem is that that line was not clearly articulated until after LSU said they were considering rostering 2 players that signed a NFL contract, even though one of them was injured and received a grand total of $190 to attend a camp, and then immediately get waived. The contract signing was never a clearly stipulated determinant until after the La court ruling. That should be shouted from the rooftops but it clearly isn't, because Sankey would be immediately fired for his actions against a founder SEC school that did absolutely nothing that violated any SEC rule that had been buried or even after it was brought to light. The NCAA stupidity in changing to the 5 for 5 rule without giving any consideration to the class of 2022 was the entire reason this fiasco happened, and it wasn't because LSU was a rogue school...which is just pure nonsense.
Posted by Broken Arrow
Member since Dec 2007
8515 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:17 am to
Tulane and James Madison weren’t considered co-favorite to win tha national championship. You missed my point entirely.
Posted by TigerFanFromBama
Pike Road, AL
Member since Mar 2015
4967 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:20 am to
Please move on...
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
48356 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:23 am to
that may be, but lets not pretend that the contract stuff isnt in question. It certainly is as it was done after the TRO and precedent was set in other sports within the conference.
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
5527 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:41 am to
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The problem is that that line was not clearly articulated until after LSU said they were considering rostering 2 players that signed a NFL contract, even though one of them was injured and received a grand total of $190 to attend a camp, and then immediately get waived. The contract signing was never a clearly stipulated determinant until after the La court ruling. That should be shouted from the rooftops but it clearly isn't, because Sankey would be immediately fired for his actions against a founder SEC school that did absolutely nothing that violated any SEC rule that had been buried or even after it was brought to light. The NCAA stupidity in changing to the 5 for 5 rule without giving any consideration to the class of 2022 was the entire reason this fiasco happened, and it wasn't because LSU was a rogue school...which is just pure nonsense.


It’s become clear that Sankey had some pent up frustrations with Lane and/or LSU to overreact and create the entire fiasco including threats to kick LSU out of the conference. I hope the Wright/Harris lawsuit exposes him and the vendetta he has.
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