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re: are USCs 12 national titles in baseball legit?

Posted on 6/28/23 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 4:37 pm to
Legit…. yes but so are all the service academies and Ivy League championships.

They are no longer a premier program though.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25848 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 4:37 pm to
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Not knocking it completely as several of ours were the Same but it is definitely a different beast now


5 of 7 = several.
Posted by ffhouston
The Woodlands
Member since Sep 2007
4030 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 4:39 pm to
A 2003 "championship" claim is definitely sus, I agree.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12646 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 4:42 pm to
Mark McGwire, Randy Johnson, Fred Lynn, Tom Seaver, Mark Prior...
USC was probably the first school to take college baseball seriously. Cant knock them for that.
Posted by jbird7
Central FL
Member since Jul 2020
5606 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 4:43 pm to
True. But they’ve at least won this century. And it’s not like they aren’t relevant. They still contend for titles. They’ve made it to Omaha 3 of the last 5 years. USC doesn’t even make the tourney.
Posted by cfish140
BR
Member since Aug 2007
8758 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 4:44 pm to
From what I understand they were all mostly in the 70s when 90% of colleges didn’t have the resources for college baseball so USC didn’t have much competition. I’m not sure if the rest of the country caught up or if USC stopped giving a shite but they haven’t made it to Omaha since 2001
Posted by LSU Neil
Springfield
Member since Feb 2007
3415 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 4:44 pm to
12 — SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA (1948, 1958, 1961, 1963, 1968, 1970-74, 1978, 1998)
Posted by HangmanPage1
Wild West
Member since Aug 2021
2037 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 4:44 pm to
They are the original blue blood of college baseball pre-1980. Since then, LSU has emerged as the preeminent baseball program, and without a doubt since the 1991 Title, in terms of attendance, championships, and facilities, it really is Purple Reign!!!
Posted by DhanTigers212
Member since Dec 2014
10392 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 4:45 pm to
In 50 years people will ask the same question about all of our 90’s championships. Are they legit? Yes damn right they are. So are USC’s 12 baseball national titles legit? Yes any national title is legit.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75915 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 4:45 pm to
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From what I understand they were all mostly in the 70s when 90% of colleges didn’t have the resources for college baseball so USC didn’t have much competition


I mean, this same argument could be used against our championships from the 90s.
Posted by bstaceyau19
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 4:49 pm to
It's threads like this that make people think that LSU fans are *fill in derogatory adjective here*
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
16623 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 4:50 pm to
They were won on the field according to the rules in place, and their coach was a Louisiana guy, but that was before anyone else took college baseball seriously. I am not going to say they weren't legit. They were won fair and square.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
22250 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 4:51 pm to
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Don't think they ever played a 3 game series for the win.

Pretty sure all theirs were a 1 game winner take all.


The 1 game championship only started in 1988 and was that way until 2003. Before 1988, the CWS was a true double elimination format but TV didn't like the fact that there was no way to know when the championship game would actually be.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25848 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 4:53 pm to
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True. But they’ve at least won this century. And it’s not like they aren’t relevant. They still contend for titles. They’ve made it to Omaha 3 of the last 5 years. USC doesn’t even make the tourney.


Sure, if the discussion was current relevancy rather than past title legitimacy, Texas beats USC hands down, but that’s not the discussion.

And besides LSU has only won two this century.
Posted by Domeskeller
Astrodome
Member since Jun 2020
9700 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 4:54 pm to
I’m an LSU fan and I’m having a hard time figuring out why anyone would think USC’s titles aren’t legit. They won them under conditions in place at the time.

I know the world wasn’t around before 1990 for a lot of people on these boards, but some of you people can’t help but reveal your stupidity.
Posted by LSU_USMC
Virginia
Member since Sep 2005
387 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 4:55 pm to
Agree. It’s a dumb discussion. They won. Period. According to the rules of the time.

We also won some with the 1 game format. Are those not valid now?

If the CWS goes to a best of 5 does that diminish our accomplishments? No

They have 12 or whatever. They have more.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42898 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 4:57 pm to
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Almost all of them are pre 1980.

Short answer is a resounding NO.

I believe the argument of greatest baseball program is between Texas and LSU.



I cannot think of more shoddy logic or a more arbitrary number year than 1980. There are some year benchmarks where things changed to some small degree but 1980 is not one of them.
Posted by LSU_USMC
Virginia
Member since Sep 2005
387 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 4:57 pm to
Exactly. We might as well be Florida fans and say they should be recognized as “co-champions” because they scored more runs. ????????
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
16403 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 4:58 pm to
Yale & Princeton both have more football titles than Alabama
Posted by BasilBogomil
Member since Dec 2012
6156 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 4:59 pm to
Just gives LSU baseball a measuring stick to eclipse in the next couple of decades ;)
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