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re: O Line is a weakness and we don't seem to be improving it with this class

Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:31 pm to
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
2758 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:31 pm to
I remember when the Orgeron lovers were slamming Miles for bad OLine recruiting

Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 11/10/20 at 8:20 pm to
So 12-16 olineman at all times. That should go over well considering only 5 can play.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66258 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 8:41 pm to
How many do you think we had last year?

We had 5 starters. 3 guys making real contributions. And that doesn’t include Hines Wire or the freshmen.

When you play 5 at a position, you can’t afford to take 1 any year. Because you’re never going to hit it 100%
This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 8:42 pm
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 8:48 pm to
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I remember when the Orgeron lovers were slamming Miles for bad OLine recruiting

You think Les recruited the lines well his last several years?

Jury is still out on Orgeron. His first full recruiting class (2018) has been a total disaster. 2019 and 2020 had some decent prospects, but obviously they haven't done anything on the field yet. Of course, they are freshmen and sophomores. Usually offensive lineman take a couple of years to develop.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 8:49 pm to
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When you play 5 at a position, you can’t afford to take 1 any year. Because you’re never going to hit it 100%

You honestly believe we're only taking 1 offensive lineman this year?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66258 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 9:24 pm to
No, I think we are after at least 3

But we need them to be three good ones
Numbers are not everything.

We took 6 DL in 2018.
0 are contributing
This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 10:13 pm
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
26923 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 10:46 pm to
Right but we are after 3 good ones.

People need to start giving cregg his respect
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66258 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

People need to start giving cregg his respect


He needs to finish with the three good ones.

Honestly, I think Lewis is his best OL recruit?

4/5th of our OL in 2019 were Grimes recruits.

Our OL sucked in 2018 and sucks thisnyear.

He needs to pull it together. Get some guys and more importantly get those guys ready to play.

This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 10:53 pm
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
26923 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 2:57 am to
2018 wasn't his fault as far as recruits.

He turned Damien Lewis into that player.
This year the line looks like shite after people are missing.
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
2758 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 6:28 am to
Right, but those were also Miles recruits largely that won the Natty — Deculus, Charles, Cush, Magee, Ingram

Do I think they were Joe Moore award greatness in reality? No, I think Burrow, Clyde and the scheme made them look better than they were. But still good enough to win a Natty
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68255 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 7:24 am to
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So 12-16 olineman at all times. That should go over well considering only 5 can play.



You do realize basically every team out there with the 85 limit has between about that many, right?

Did you seriously think the normal amount was like 7-9 or something?

Here's our scholarship OL from the last few years not including any walk ons that got scholarships either...

2020
1. Rosenthal
2. Wire
3. Ingram
4. Shanahan
5. Hines
6. Deculus
7. Hill
8. Martinez
9. Turner
10. Bradford
11. Dumervile
12. Perry
13. Thomas

2019
1. Charles
2. Magee
3. Cushenberry
4. Lewis
5. Deculus
6. Rosenthal
7. Wire
8. Ingram
9. Hines
10. Turner
11. Campbell
12. Bradford
13. Traore
14. Savage
15. Perry
16. Thomas
17. Evans (moved to defense in 2020)

2018
1. Charles
2. Traore
3. Wire
4. Rosenthal
5. Brumfield
6. Hines
7. Cushenberry
8. Smith
9. Lewis
10. Campbell
11. Deculus
12. Magee
13. Savage
14. Ingram

2017
1. Malone
2. Savage
3. Brumfield
4. Campbell
5. Clapp
6. Cushenberry
7. Ingram
8. Charles
9. Magee
10. Weathersby
11. Deculus

2016
1. Okeke
2. Weathersby
3. Pocic
4. Brumfield
5. Teuhema
6. Clapp
7. Dodd
8. Boutte
9. Malone
10. Magee
11. Domand
12. Brown Jr.
13. Savage
14. Campbell
15. Allen
16. Cushenberry
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278034 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 7:50 am to
Tons of injuries in 2018

Also just a note, Traore was active for Chicago this past week
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
29944 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 8:38 am to
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Thunderbird


Best post I’ve seen in. Long time.


Par level for oLine is fluid.


I say you keep 4 LT and 3everywhere else.



LT-4
LG-3
C-3
RG-3
RT-3







Folks don’t understand why/how bama/Uga do this.


It’s not about 5 positions and the two deep. It’s about keeping the other ~6 non-contributors developing in size and the playbook.

By the time they are sophomore/juniors, they hit the ground running. The development of depth is what keeps you from forcing a frosh into The starting line up.....it happens, but not ideal.
This post was edited on 11/11/20 at 3:07 pm
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3296 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

Right, but those were also Miles recruits largely that won the Natty — Deculus, Charles, Cush, Magee, Ingram



Wasn't Coach O the recruiting coordinator during this time
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4332 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 3:06 pm to
We are going after the top in the country. We have Martinez and dumerville. Our O line will be better
Posted by 167back
Dos Gris
Member since Jun 2012
4694 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 6:59 pm to
Deculus, Charles and Ingram were all part of the LSU '17 signing class. EdO took over for Les as head coach after the fourth game was it in the '16 season. So NO they signed with EdO.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66258 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

We are going after the top in the country.


We just got to get them.

We went after too DL in the country for years and it got us here.

You gotta land the players.

I’m not saying I’m not optimistic.

Finish strong and who gives a frick about this year?
This post was edited on 11/11/20 at 8:13 pm
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 8:49 pm to
Exactly. Brick Haley got us second place finishes with all the top DL recruits. Unfortunately, and I think this saying applies better to recruiting than just about anything...If you ain't first, you're last.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4636 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 7:52 am to
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We have Martinez and dumerville. Our O line will be better


Dumervil will be a stud. He's naturally gifted.
Posted by psybj
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
176 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 5:38 pm to
LA don't grow SEC OL, maybe one kid/year could be called a quality OL recruit. Need 4 or 5.

LSU gets great talent from elsewhere for other positions but OL hasn't come in yet.

Lack of AA OL may be seen by candidates, could be a big factor.

Until this is turned around LSU got a big problem.
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