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re: O Line is a weakness and we don't seem to be improving it with this class
Posted on 11/3/20 at 2:19 pm to Tigerboy55
Posted on 11/3/20 at 2:19 pm to Tigerboy55
quote:Not nearly enough. Should be a minimum of 4 each class and 5 ideally
3 per class
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Posted on 11/4/20 at 8:06 am to Chalkywhite84
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How do you put that on cregg
He didnt make kardell hurt himself
He didnt make bradford not lose the weight.
Bradford was huge coming in.
Cregg recruited these guys, he's responsible for who he recruits to be on his OL. An injury is one thing but if he cant get someone in shape, that's on him. That 2019 class which was his first seemingly still has a long way to go to look like it'll do anything:
Kardell Thomas
Anthony Bradford
Thomas Perry
Charles Turner
Ray Parker (Yes they thought he would be on the OL)
You dont necessarily expect year 2 OLinemen to be starters but none of those players look even remotely close right now to being contributors which is a tad alarming.
Guys like Dare Rosenthal and Chasen Hines both played enough to be noticed in their first 2 years from 2018 class and grabbed starting spots in year 3, wont include Damien Lewis in there since he was a JUCO which is very different, they have a short window to show anything by comparison to high school recruits.
This post was edited on 11/4/20 at 8:24 am
Posted on 11/4/20 at 8:37 am to Tigerboy55
What CEO has right at this moment is the WORST team in LSU history.
Posted on 11/4/20 at 8:37 am to thunderbird1100
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Kardell Thomas
Anthony Bradford
Thomas Perry
Charles Turner
Ray Parker (Yes they thought he would be on the OL)
This gives me the sads.
Posted on 11/4/20 at 8:47 am to thunderbird1100
Ok but kardell had a really bad injury and probably doesn't start this year anyway.
If these 2 don't do anything next year then yeah ill be concerned
If these 2 don't do anything next year then yeah ill be concerned
Posted on 11/4/20 at 8:54 am to Captain Crown
Sad, why?
It’s their second year on campus, in which they missed a majority of the offseason. Two are coming off an injury. All were beat out by older, more experienced players. Y’all have no sense of reality.
It’s their second year on campus, in which they missed a majority of the offseason. Two are coming off an injury. All were beat out by older, more experienced players. Y’all have no sense of reality.
Posted on 11/4/20 at 9:09 am to Lester Earl
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It’s their second year on campus, in which they missed a majority of the offseason. Two are coming off an injury. All were beat out by older, more experienced players. Y’all have no sense of reality.
Dare and Chasen both showed a decent bit in first 2 years on campus and started this year while none of these guys have really showed anything so far. Turner got the start for Ingram in 1 game but got replaced in that game with someone else eventually and just didnt look like a OG at all.
Next year will be really telling, Ingram very likely gone and I suspect Deculus will be too. If none of them can grab a starting spot in year 3 it's looking pretty bleak for them.
Posted on 11/4/20 at 9:30 am to thunderbird1100
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Dare and Chasen both showed a decent bit in first 2 years
They played because they had too. They didn’t pass up more experienced players from out of camp though.
Posted on 11/4/20 at 9:35 am to Lester Earl
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They played because they had too.
And looked pretty decent/promising/good. Hines played actually quite a bit for a true freshman himself and it wasn't just "out of necessity". Could have played other players those snaps as well, but they chose Hines. Could say the same for Rosenthal last year too, yes Charles was out, but he more than held his own in his starts and looked competent, they could have started other guys there.
Turner got 1 start so far and looked, well, again, not like an OG at all so much so they replaced him in the game.
Don't act like there's no opportunity to play on this OL right now, it's pretty bad. What we saw of Thomas/Bradford in garbage time against USC wasn't very pretty. Those guys are so far from being contributors right now.
This post was edited on 11/4/20 at 9:37 am
Posted on 11/4/20 at 9:44 am to thunderbird1100
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Hines played actually quite a bit for a true freshman himself and it wasn't just "out of necessity"
As his bio reads
-started at Miss St (injury)
-26 snaps at Aub (injury)
-75 snaps vs UGA (injury)
His opportunity to play came early (G3) because of injury. So yea he played & got the opportunity because he was forced to.
Writing kids off before they’ve even finished Y2, with as weird as this one has been, is just emotional drivel & completely ridiculous
Posted on 11/4/20 at 9:47 am to Lester Earl
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As his bio reads
-started at Miss St (injury)
-26 snaps at Aub (injury)
-75 snaps vs UGA (injury)
His opportunity to play came early (G3) because of injury. So yea he played & got the opportunity because he was forced to.
Again, you're overlooking the fact they could have started OTHER players but they chose to play him instead. He wasnt the only other OG left on the team, he was also only a true freshman.
Again, he showed a good bit as did Rosenthal when given opportunity their first 2 years. The 2019 class of offensive lineman so far have not, including when Charles recently got a start and got pulled in game.
It's ok to admit the 2019 OL class is off to a really poor start, it's not "writing them off" just stating facts. We se Kardell and Anthony come in the end of blowout finally in year 2 and it was painful to watch, not exactly the same kind progress we saw from guys like Dare and Chasen their first 2 seasons. Saying they have a long ways to go is simply stating the obvious what we all see from their lack of playing time and when they do get on the field it's not pretty.
Not to mention it's not like the OL is any good this year yet these guys still cant seem to get any real playing time outside of 1 start by Turner due to injury where again, he got pulled in.
This post was edited on 11/4/20 at 9:51 am
Posted on 11/4/20 at 9:58 am to thunderbird1100
Man, these losses really get to some of y’all. Smh
Lose all grasp of reality
Lose all grasp of reality
Posted on 11/4/20 at 10:01 am to Lester Earl
Excellent retort to facts 
Posted on 11/4/20 at 10:36 am to thunderbird1100
You just said the same exact shite you said further up the thread that I responded to 2 posts ago
Hines got his opportunity because of injury & you are trying to argue your way around that.
The interior of LSU’s OL is entrenched, as well as RT. There isn’t opportunity there. As much as you want to think it’s open season, it’s not.
You lack foresight as usual, and you are way too emotional to draw a fair read on this.
Hines got his opportunity because of injury & you are trying to argue your way around that.
The interior of LSU’s OL is entrenched, as well as RT. There isn’t opportunity there. As much as you want to think it’s open season, it’s not.
You lack foresight as usual, and you are way too emotional to draw a fair read on this.
Posted on 11/4/20 at 10:38 am to Lester Earl
A few snake against SC mean very little
And they think Charles Turner is the future Center. I’m not concerned with his G reps considering his size
And they think Charles Turner is the future Center. I’m not concerned with his G reps considering his size
Posted on 11/4/20 at 10:43 am to Lester Earl
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Hines got his opportunity because of injury & you are trying to argue your way around that.
Yet you still refuse to acknowledge he got that opportunity over OTHER players they could have gone with instead, and multiple times for him. He got about 300 snaps that season as a TRUE freshman AND he looked pretty good doing it. By comparison, only Turner has gotten on the field in the 2019 group for 1 start and he was pulled in that game, and that wasnt in year 1, it was year 2 as well.
quote:
The interior of LSU’s OL is entrenched, as well as RT. There isn’t opportunity there
It got entrenched because the 2019 guys are providing no competition. Remember when Charles Turner was supposed to be the enxt center after Cushenberry? Then they tried Hines there because Turner was so bad, then moved Evans over from the DL to try it out, then ultimately got a transfer and now Turner got a spot start for Ingram and was so bad he also got pulled in that game. To say there is NO opportunity on this OL to play is laughable, it's not a good OL, there's opportunity to get on the field but these guys havent shown that ability yet. Turner should have been the starting center but couldnt pull it off we got a transfer instead.
With Ingram out Bradford and Thomas could have potentially filled that spot but they went with Turner, and again, he still got pulled.
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You lack foresight as usual, and you are way too emotional to draw a fair read on this.
Ther'es nothin emotional I'm talking about at all, I am spewing facts which you refuse to acknowledge which is your usual schtick. Nobody here is saying these guys are a lost cause yet you keep rinse and repeating like that's the case. Simply pointing out the facts, and the 2019 guys have made basically no impact so far, despite us having a not so great OL this year, despite even getting 1 opportunity with a starter out for a game. It's not emotional but rathe factual to point out these guys clearly have a ways to go and seem behind previous OL from other classes who played more and earlier and better. Try and dispute these facts, not use your usual emotional garbage.
This post was edited on 11/4/20 at 10:47 am
Posted on 11/4/20 at 8:07 pm to Lester Earl
We should bring in 5 OLmen in this class
Posted on 11/4/20 at 9:49 pm to moock blackjack
Nah, the free year given by the ncaa makes it less dire. They need two tackles for sure & maybe a swing guy, but 5 is way too many
Posted on 11/5/20 at 8:38 am to Geauxld Finger
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Dare Rosenthal - project OT. been ok; still learning
Didn't he leave the team?
Posted on 11/5/20 at 11:19 am to thunderbird1100
Charles Turner better be able to play center cause he can't play anywhere else.
Weird that they keep trying to fit him in everywhere but center
Weird that they keep trying to fit him in everywhere but center
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