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re: For those focused on star rankings
Posted on 12/20/23 at 12:56 pm to TigerKing19
Posted on 12/20/23 at 12:56 pm to TigerKing19
Take those purple and gold glasses off. This is a weak class for LSU standers
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 1:00 pm to denvertiger
Michigan is ending up in the playoffs the last 2 years and look at their team recruiting ranking the last few years. Let me guess...another exception? 
Why has Ohio State only won 1 NC the last 20 years when they are always up there? How did Clemson win their NCs when their recruiting was lucky to squeeze into the top 10. Look it up...I just did! Half the time their classes back then was in the teens.
Why has Ohio State only won 1 NC the last 20 years when they are always up there? How did Clemson win their NCs when their recruiting was lucky to squeeze into the top 10. Look it up...I just did! Half the time their classes back then was in the teens.Posted on 12/20/23 at 1:25 pm to NOSA
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Throwing around the same three star outliers every year isn’t making the strong case you think it is.
I agree but we are in a new era now called The Portal. The low rated guys who do not pan out will hit the portal and new “select” players will take their place. The key here is that you need to build a strong talent base through Hs recruits because you have the most time with them. Incoming portal people are hole pluggers and/or short term opportunities.
So I guess you could say there is a new mulligan system in recruiting. And it makes it less of a big deal that 4-5 teams stockpile all the talent because the ones that dont get their opportunity will hit the road…
Posted on 12/20/23 at 1:27 pm to denvertiger
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Which teams are in the playoff just about every year? And what do their star rankings look like?
How’d them 5 stars work out for A&M and Jimbo?
Let’s ask them.
Jimbo, how did buyin all them 5 star recruits work out for you?
Posted on 12/20/23 at 1:28 pm to TigerKing19
You can't win a natty with 2 players. Name about 40 more that were all on the same team. The closest I get to your theory is Iowa big 8 Nebraska
Posted on 12/20/23 at 1:29 pm to BowDownToLSU
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Take those purple and gold glasses off. This is a weak class for LSU standers
Wrong again. We have typically had years where this is EXACTLY the level of recruiting we’ve done.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 2:15 pm to TigerKing19
Not like that anymore
Posted on 12/20/23 at 2:53 pm to BowDownToLSU
Then I expect that you won’t be watching along with the rest of the Negatigers? Peace out bandwagoner
Posted on 12/20/23 at 3:01 pm to TigerKing19
I will bet you that I can find more 4* and 5* players that didn't pan out than you can find 3* gems.
FYI Mathieu was a 4*
FYI Mathieu was a 4*
Posted on 12/20/23 at 3:19 pm to mdomingue
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So that's what, 3 in 20 years? Screw it, let's jsut sign 3 stars now.
It’s probably closer to 80 in 20 years. Mo Claiborne, Lloyd Cushenberry, Damien Lewis, Debo Jones, Duke Riley, there have been tons of three stars and low four stars who have become great. Wasn’t Clyde a three?
Posted on 12/20/23 at 3:25 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
You get year after year average defensive players you get year after year of no ships
This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 12/20/23 at 3:38 pm to JiminyCricket
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I mean, ON3, who has the most reliable ratings since 24/7 started going downhill has LSU as having the 6th overall class. We got the 5th last year and have a legit shot at #1 this year. You stack #5 on top of #6 on top of #1, your roster will be in great shape.
Rank their list by average star rating and LSU falls out of the top 10. They are number six to some extent because they have signed more players than most teams.
This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 12/20/23 at 3:56 pm to Bayou2atl
You brought up Washington and Michigan but I have an even better example. Look up the years BEFORE Clemson winning a couple of national titles several years ago. They weren't in the top 6 or 7 in any year and were in the teens some years in rankings. Also, Oklahoma never in the top 5 in recruiting...made the playoffs. Oregon has been yanked high, didn't the playoffs multiple times. Ohio State is in the top 5 in rankings almost every year...1 NC in 20 years. All that the stargazers can throw out is Alabama and Georgia. Oh, and TCU made the NC game last year and their recruiting is mediocre to be kind.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:01 pm to tigersbh
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Rank their list by average star rating and LSU falls out of the top 10. They are number six to some extent because they have signed more players than most teams.
Except that's not how the On3 rankings work.
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+ The On3 Industry Team Recruiting Ranking solves the problem of varying class sizes during the recruiting cycle. It compiles the highest-rated commits for each team up to a total based on a rolling average of current total commitments among Power 5 schools.
With this model, there are no bonus points for having more commitments than other teams, and only small deductions occur when a team has fewer commitments than the rolling average. Unlike distribution (bell) curves, this model doesn’t disproportionately weight a team’s top three or four highest-rated commits and is a more accurate representation of an entire class.
The current total is 17. So on On3, only the Top 17 recruits are factored into the rankings.
This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:05 pm to tigersbh
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They are number six to some extent because they have signed more players than most teams.
They only use the top 17 recruits from each class for the rankings at the moment
At the end they will use 20
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:16 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
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The current total is 17. So on On3, only the Top 17 recruits are factored into the rankings.
So our top 17 is #6 against everyone else’s top 16. That leaves out all of our 3 star players. lol
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:20 pm to tigersbh
People who really think stars don’t matter took the short bus to school.
Like they shouldn’t be allowed to procreate
Like they shouldn’t be allowed to procreate
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:21 pm to Tiger987
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Clemson won 2 Nattys with primarily 3*s
Not exactly. Their classes leading up to the stellar classes they had around 2014-2017 were loaded with 4-stars. So yes, they signed lots of 3 stars. But their 4 star hauls were really impressive for more than a few years…like, 60% of their numbers if I had to guess
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:24 pm to tigersbh
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So our top 17 is #6 against everyone else’s top 16. That leaves out all of our 3 star players. lol
What are you talking about? A&M and South Carolina are the only two SEC schools with 16 recruits. UGA has 28, OU has 27, Bama has 25. Only UF, Arkansas, USCe, and A&M have fewer than 20.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:25 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
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The glass half full people are terrible on here
I would submit to you that the glass half empty people are worse.
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