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re: Eating lunch at the Boston yesterday in Amite
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:06 pm to Steel_Tiger
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:06 pm to Steel_Tiger
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You people DO realize that Saban also loses recruiting battles, right?
No, I don't think they get this at all. Saban wins more than he loses, but we've won several high profile kids over him. He was personally going HARD after Jacoby Stevens in 2017 and he was going hard after Kardell Thomas and Stingley this year.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:08 pm to Dave England
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He is supposed to be the best recruiter in the country.
Who told you this? And you believing this person, that's on you.
Orgeron has been very good recruiter throughout his career, but no sane person ever said, or thought, he was the best recruiter in the country.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:28 pm to Dave England
Ok David, what could O have possibly done differently to land sopsher? I’d really like to hear your suggestion(s)
You can’t accuse someone of ‘melting’ just because you feel cornered by what they are saying
You can’t accuse someone of ‘melting’ just because you feel cornered by what they are saying
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:30 pm to zed44
Bama grad here but from LA. I would rather LSU burn two scholarships on this kid than get him at Bama. Now I always think there is a chance a kid gets motivated when he is in Saban's program, but I've seen him play twice and was very unimpressed. Could see him ending up at a juco after one season at Bama.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:31 pm to MetryMauler
I agree 100% and it’s not a case of sour grapes
Like everyone has said, he looked completely underwhelming vs Country Day
Like everyone has said, he looked completely underwhelming vs Country Day
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:36 pm to MetryMauler
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Now I always think there is a chance a kid gets motivated when he is in Saban's program
Better chance there than anywhere else. Not necessarily because of Saban's coaching style, but his attention to detail combined with the resource allocation afforded him by Alabama.
With as many staffers as Alabama has, the impact of negative locker room influences and "energy vampires" is mitigated. You don't need your DL coach to babysit the guy until he's ready to contribute, you've got an army of analysts and S&C assistants to do stuff like that. It allows the coaches to coach and recruit.
The gameplanning stuff is definitely the biggest positive impact of the additional staffers, but this is a huge benefit to having them around as well.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:37 pm to Mr. Hangover
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You can’t accuse someone of ‘melting’ just because you feel cornered by what they are saying
no I can accuse them of melting for cursing
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Jesus Christ dude, shut the frick up
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You’re mad at Ed Orgeron because a kid (or really, a whole town) was bought by Alabama and Saban
and completely deflecting from the issue with nonsense
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] I don’t like to get political, but this is the same type of shite that you see with dems when it comes to Trump
its november. the fact that the coaches would give up in november for a player committing in february is sad. theres no other way around it.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:46 pm to Lester Earl
I bet you do, creep.
Still haven't got those snap counts from 2017, but already got takes ready to go for 2019
Still haven't got those snap counts from 2017, but already got takes ready to go for 2019
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:46 pm to Dave England
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its november. the fact that the coaches would give up in november for a player committing in february is sad. theres no other way around it.
Who's giving up? Orgeron went in-home with Sopsher on Sunday, which was the first day of the contact period. If the staff was giving up, Orgeron would have gone in home on some random Wednesday in December, not on the very first day he was able to.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:47 pm to Dave England
And yet you still dodge the question... here, pick this post apart like you’ve done all the other ones:
What could O have done different to try to land sophser? I really want to hear what you have to say
What could O have done different to try to land sophser? I really want to hear what you have to say
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:48 pm to deuce985
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Meanwhile, LSU continues to struggle in both oline/dline recruiting something that was suppose to be fixed from the Miles era. O has not exactly done a good job in recruiting here on either side. Both sides have lots of disappointments in his short tenure here. The dline-U moniker at LSU long since passed. Everyone knows Bama cheats but I guess LSU can't pass big enough checks to compete with them anymore.
So keep spinning this. Be happy with what you have. A loaded roster at skill positions and weak in the trenches/QB. This is LSU life. Just don't expect to ever seriously compete for championships. As long as you understand that you're good.
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deuce985
You should step up and pay the OL/DL recruits to go to LSU. I would but I have enough expenses already getting ready to send one kid to college and another in private school.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:49 pm to whitefoot
You aren’t going to get an intelligent response for this. Prom and I have asked him multiple times... Sorry that you wasted your time
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:52 pm to Dave England
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its november. the fact that the coaches would give up in november for a player committing in february
Yeah, I'm about 100% sure this is bull shite.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:55 pm to GumboPot
He’s just talking out of his arse
Still waiting for him to answer the question
Still waiting for him to answer the question
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:57 pm to Dave England
You know , maybe we should just cheat like Hell. We could hire " Mr Probation" Hugh Freeze as OC, & go for an all out bidding war w/'Bama. Offer every asset at our disposal. EVERY ASSET. That means we could go 13-1 , have the NCAA in to investigate us , be on probation the next year, lose scholarships , get O fired , and finally all O-Haters can celebrate to their hearts desire. The fact that LSU has less scholarships, less quality players due to no playoff ,wins fewer games , beats ZERO teams in top 20, but welcomes aboard the next victim as HC after finally unloading O , and sending athletic department down in flames matters not . Just oust O. All problems solved . Geaux Tigers
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:01 pm to Dave England
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and completely deflecting from the issue with nonsense
You’re accusing someone of deflecting while you won’t answer my question at all. Won’t even acknowledge it.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:02 pm to Dave England
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its november. the fact that the coaches would give up in november for a player committing in february is sad. theres no other way around it.
I definitely haven't heard LSU giving up on him, but the writing is on the wall that he was, is and always has been Bama's recruit to lose. It's really not a reflection on Coach O, but more a reflection on the recruit and Bama's dominance at this point.
Your point is understandable on the surface, but its just incorrect to label coach O as a failure in recruiting for losing one high profile recruit from Louisiana. If you think this is a reflection on Coach O's recruiting, then you must've thought the same about Les Miles when the 2 Swilling kids from Brother Martin in NOLA chose Georgia Tech over LSU? However no person in their right mind who follows recruiting would say that Paul Johnson is a better recruiter than Les Miles! The fact is that not every recruit from Louisiana is pro-LSU, and some have really solid relationships and connections with other programs. Sopsher has shown a Bama lean for a long time, and their is fire behind that smoke with his family's connection with Petito, his chosen visit locations, and his tweets.
It's frustrating to lose a 5 star to a rival at a position of need, but you should put it in perspective and not trash Coach O and the program. The continued negativity from "fans" will self-perpetuate the current climate of the recruiting cycle.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:04 pm to Mr. Hangover
I don't understand all the "what could O have done differently" question.
Why was O hired? If there is one skill (and probably the only one) that one could credibly argue that O possessed at the time of his hiring as HC was that he was an elite recruiter. If his one elite skill is not good enough to keep top prospects from being poached every year by Bama, how is O supposed to succeed?
If the new reality is no one can prevent Saban from poaching the state's top prospects every year, doesn't it suggest that our coach should be more of an elite tactician that can coach up talent and scheme at least one side of the ball as well or better than Bama?
If O is not an elite tactician and cannot recruit well enough to keep Bama from poaching our best players every year, how will he ever lead LSU to a championship?
Why was O hired? If there is one skill (and probably the only one) that one could credibly argue that O possessed at the time of his hiring as HC was that he was an elite recruiter. If his one elite skill is not good enough to keep top prospects from being poached every year by Bama, how is O supposed to succeed?
If the new reality is no one can prevent Saban from poaching the state's top prospects every year, doesn't it suggest that our coach should be more of an elite tactician that can coach up talent and scheme at least one side of the ball as well or better than Bama?
If O is not an elite tactician and cannot recruit well enough to keep Bama from poaching our best players every year, how will he ever lead LSU to a championship?
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:07 pm to Cracking
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Your point is understandable on the surface, but its just incorrect to label coach O as a failure in recruiting for losing one high profile recruit from Louisiana.
It’s like he completely ignored the fact that we will more than likely get 8 of the top 10 in LA this year after getting 8/10 the previous year (pooka went to Kansas, and Justin Rogers to TCU)
that’s cherry picking, right?
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:13 pm to Manswers
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If O is not an elite tactician and cannot recruit well enough to keep Bama from poaching our best players every year, how will he ever lead LSU to a championship?
In the past two years, he’s lost ONE of LA’s top ten recruits to bama (sopsher, which isn’t even really a done deal yet, technically)
So what’s your point?
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 2:17 pm
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