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re: Eating lunch at the Boston yesterday in Amite

Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:24 am to
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:24 am to
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if LSU wanted to keep letting alabama having its pick of the litter of LA players (moses, allen, mathis, buggs, etc) we could have just kept Miles


Exactly. And this is what the Orgeron worshippers keep ignoring. Orgeron's big "plus" was that he was a "world class" recruiter who would have more success then CLM. They can shriek at me all they want to, but so far, Coach O hasn't demonstrated that he's any better at recruiting than Coach Miles, who routinely had top five recruiting classes at LSU.
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 9:25 am
Posted by BayouBoy422
Member since Oct 2018
9 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:25 am to
This thread is junk i live in Amite and have heard nothing about sopsher being a lock for Alabama. Coach O did in home visits with Lee and Sopsher on Sunday. Im an Lsu fan but i would be turned away from Lsu if i was him and seen this thread. Yall are doing nothing but hurting Lsu by bashing the Coaches and Recruits. Speak Positive and Positive things will happen.
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 10:16 am
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
10510 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:29 am to
Maybe it’s just wishful thinking, but most people in Amite do think Lee and Sopsher are LSU bound. It will be interesting to see what happens. I know we’ve been burned before when everyone thought we had a kid locked up.
Posted by BigDaddySims
Deridder
Member since Nov 2016
592 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:31 am to
I find it surprising that a Great Recruiter / Defensive Line Guru cannot recruit any talented D-Linemen year after year. If Fehoko wouldn't have transferred here we would have been in a big bind on the defensive line!
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22151 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:32 am to
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Orgeron's big "plus" was that he was a "world class" recruiter who would have more success then CLM.


It's not that he's a bad recruiter, because he's not. What many failed to understand is that recruiting players as a defensive line coach is A LOT different than recruiting players as the head coach. He has proven that he is an excellent recruiter as an assistant coach. He has not yet proven to be an excellent recruiter as a head coach.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:33 am to
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Mr England is speaking the truth. O was hired to win these battles. We’re in dire need of Dlinemen and he can’t get the best in our backyard. We can’t win if these type of players keep going to Bama. Point blank


Exactly. The Coach O worshippers don't get it. So far, Orgeron has not shown where he's any better at recruiting than CLM. And recruiting was what the O worshippers all raved to everybody was his special forte. This was the THE one reason I was sold on his hire as HC. Like I've said before, I'm underwhelmed so far. Hopefully, Coach O will surprise me and get players like Sopsher and Surtain, Jr. in the future.
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 9:34 am
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:36 am to
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Exactly. And this is what the Orgeron worshippers keep ignoring. Orgeron's big "plus" was that he was a "world class" recruiter who would have more success then CLM. They can shriek at me all they want to, but so far, Coach O hasn't demonstrated that he's any better at recruiting than Coach Miles, who routinely had top five recruiting classes at LSU.

You people are freaking idiots. Nobody in this thread is "worshipping" Orgeron and nobody that knows anything ever thought Orgeron would be a better recruiter than Miles. We hoped we'd get better line recruiting and more balanced classes, but Miles' recruiting prowess was what kept him employed here so long. Miles was an extremely good recruiter and we should be thankful that there hasn't been a drop off with Orgeron.

But this thread is about one particular recruit and it's not being an Orgeron "worshipper" to let y'all know that if we don't get him, there was likely nothing this, or any other staff, could have done to get him. That's just reality.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:04 am to
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Nobody in this thread is "worshipping" Orgeron and nobody that knows anything ever thought Orgeron would be a better recruiter than Miles.




Jeezus, all you people do is defend Orgeron at every turn. Don't tell me that there aren't a lot of O worshippers here. And yes, there WERE people insisting that if we got Orgeron on board, that he would give us the edge in recruiting (and not just at D-line, which btw, he's been rather underwhelming so far).
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3613 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:29 am to
O is a good guy and an above average recruiter but he is a stop-gap coach. The only reason I responded in this thread was the laughable assertion that no coach could possibly recruit in the town of Amite because it was bought and paid for by Bama.

Look, if Sopsher goes to Bama, he goes. The reality is whatever O brings to the table it's not enough to keep Saban from poaching key recruits and he doesn't appear to be better (and in fact may be worse) than Miles was in this regard.

No one outside of Louisiana thinks O is an elite coach. They think Aranda is an elite DC and that Louisiana is a state with enough talent to allow LSU to be a decent SEC team even with Saban at Bama.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:32 am to
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eezus, all you people do is defend Orgeron at every turn.

I've said numerous times in this thread that defensive line recruiting is disappointing this year. I'm critical or Orgeron when I feel it's warranted. I just do not agree that it's warranted in the case of Sopsher, if he doesn't come to LSU.

Other than committing major violations, I'm not sure what else Orgeron could have done to get him.

But, am I happy that we only have one defensive line recruit at this point in the cycle? Of course not. That's a concern and I hope he's able to land some solid guys in the home stretch.

As for you believe any idiot who said Orgeron was a better recruiter than Miles, well, that's on you, buddy. People say a lot of dumb shite on this message board. My personal feelings were that I hoped there wouldn't be much, or any, drop off in recruiting going from Orgeron to Miles. So far, I think he's done ok.

In 2017 he had the #7 ranked class, which was the highest ever for an incoming coach. Obviously, it helped that he was already on staff, but he still did a great job holding the class together and adding some huge pieces at the wire.

2018 was sub par, but talent in the state was down and he did a good job of adding depth along the lines. Hines, Marshall, Chase and Joseph are future studs and Rosenthal MIGHT be a very good left tackle who can lock that position down for the next 2-3 years. And hopefully, some of those defensive line prospects will develop into solid rotation guys.

2019 we're ranked 5th with 5-7 spots left to fill and really only one glaring weakness, which is defensive line.

This is an extremely good recruiting class so far and there's a lot of time left to fill the holes, regardless if we land Sopsher or not.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:46 am to
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the laughable assertion that no coach could possibly recruit in the town of Amite because it was bought and paid for by Bama

I didn't read where anyone said that no coach could recruit Amite. By all accounts, it's looking good for us to get Devonta Lee out of Amite and we got Trey Palmer out of nearby Kentwood (you know, where one of Alabama's starting defensive backs is from).

People have said that if Orgeron can't get SOPSHER, then no coach was likely going to get him. Forget about the possibility of money being involved, Sopsher's dad, Vincent Sanders and Sam Petito were high school buddies and played football together. That's a pretty huge relationship to pull a guy away from. It would be different if Petito was a Ole Miss or something, but he's at Alabama.

If one of your high school buddies was recruiting your kid to come play at the best program in the country, that was only about 4 hours away, you'd probably be pretty interested, right? Or am I just being an O worshiper for understanding how the specifics of this recruit might be impossible to overcome?

Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:52 am to
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Maybe it’s just wishful thinking, but most people in Amite do think Lee and Sopsher are LSU bound. It will be interesting to see what happens. I know we’ve been burned before when everyone thought we had a kid locked up


see this is the kind of PMT this board needs.


"whats PMT, Dave?"

Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:54 am to
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PMT

Is that what we're going to call our podcast?
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5000 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:55 am to
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Coach Miles, who routinely had top five recruiting classes at LSU


He had 4 top 5 classes. His avg class was around 7-8

Sopsher would be the first LA guy O lost to Bama in 2 years and he leads for most of 2020 guys
Posted by Vood
Enjoying a Forty with Lando
Member since Dec 2007
8332 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:03 am to
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Sospher is not going to LSU, it’s alabama. And, this made me sick all the Alabama gear being worn around that small town. As O would say he ain’t coming


Is this really a surprise to anyone. We have been saying for over a year he is all Bama, even when Bama wasnt even in his "Top 5"

Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:11 am to
dude, hell yes.



who are you thinking we should get as a sponsor? I know a guy whos a manager at a local pizza parlor.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:12 am to
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who are you thinking we should get as a sponsor?

Manda fine meats
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:23 am to
you are soaring up my list of "favorite posters"
Posted by bigdaddy101
Kentwood, Louisiana
Member since Sep 2004
20 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 3:52 pm to
I just spent two months around Amite, ate at Mikes, Boston, coop deville, corner, talked to coaches at Amite, oak forest, Indy, and ponch. Not one person said he was going to Bama or LSU. I did not see anything out of the ordinary for Bama gear. In fact go watch a n LSU game in Tangi parish and look who they root for, it’s damn sure not Bama.
Posted by ECOTIGER
westbank for life
Member since Dec 2007
2836 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:57 pm to
Can't wait for signing day. Insert shades
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 9:58 pm
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