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Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:26 am to
Posted by HuskyPanda
Philly
Member since Feb 2018
1729 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:26 am to
shite you not, as I’m reading through all of this, my power goes out.
Posted by NatalbanyTigerFan
On the water somewhere
Member since Oct 2007
7613 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:27 am to
Its very simple and I'm definitely not an electrician.
Just shut the main breaker off before you start.
I installed mine yesterday,

Reliance 30 amp Power inlet box $60
Romex 10/3 wire with ground $60
30 amp double pole breaker $10
20' 30 amp cord $50
Other odds/ends $30
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166295 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:31 am to
quote:

I’d like to be able to run the fridge and ac.


LINK

plus few extension cords, multi outlet power strips etc, window unit and you're fine for a bunch of basics.
Posted by Tempratt
WRMS Girls Soccer Team Kicks arse
Member since Oct 2013
13358 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:38 am to
I've been told to stay away from Generac. Kohler, Powertech, etc but don't buy Generac for whole house.
Posted by BadatBourre
Member since Jan 2019
741 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:38 pm to
Please do not buy a Generac. All but one person in my neighborhood who had Generacs, ran into issues. My neighbor is a diesel mechanic and did everything right. Shut it down for 4-6 hours every night, changed his oil at 150 hours when it requires 200 hours, took the shroud off and added a large fan to help with cooling, and his still had issues.
Posted by dangerousdon
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
593 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:47 pm to
OP needs to call around. Even with everything costing more $1900 sounds really high. I had an interlock, a 50 amp breaker, a breaker moved and a 50 amp inlet installed for right at $500 last year. Got my work done with J Rowe Electric in Denham. Very professional, clean and didn't kill me in cost. Another guy here had a post recently and went with J Rowe and was really please and saved him some money.
Posted by STATigerFan
St. Amant, LA
Member since Sep 2019
123 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:16 pm to
My house has a manual transfer switch and a plug outside for a generator but after Ida, and trying to find gasoline I was determined to not do that again. So I had 3 different companies give me an estimate for a 22kw Generac whole home set up. The prices were between $16k and $20k installed. I was prepared to pay $8k-10k. I’m in St. Amant. The prices I got were not worth the amount of time I’d actually need it. I ended up getting a portable generator that will run off of natural gas and will use the existing transfer switch and plug.

This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 4:17 pm
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

shite you not, as I’m reading through all of this, my power goes out.


Damn!
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
16871 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

Got my work done with J Rowe Electric in Denham. Very professional, clean and didn't kill me in cost. Another guy here had a post recently and went with J Rowe and was really please and saved him some money.


It was me. Agreed 100% on this. Saved close to $900 on Don’s advice. That’s almost the price of my new Tri fuel Firman.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 4:54 pm
Posted by ABucks11
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
1147 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:53 pm to
How far the cable has to run for the switch is the big price difference.

I chose to go the portable route because a whole house generator was 3x the expensive. Be realistic about what you need in a power outage and how often you need it.

My parents in BR have no trees and buried power lines. They have only lost power for more than 12 hours two times in 10 years. My dad has only used his portable generator for Ida and it ran his fridges, fans, and window unit.
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
1658 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:08 pm to
quote:

Be realistic about what you need in a power outage and how often you need it.


I've said it on this board before, but I got an 11kw generator for $1200. I have 2 AC units, 3 and 4 ton. It runs the whole house except for the 4 ton unit which is only our downstairs. All bedrooms and a second living room are upstairs. We can easily 'survive' a long time like that. Saved thousands, but more importantly it can be brought to our next home if desired.
Posted by rodnreel
South La.
Member since Apr 2011
1319 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 6:00 am to
Go the long term route, whole house. Most portable generator are not made to withstand the outside elements for very long and you shouldn't run them any where near the eves of the house. Many are not designed to run 24/7.

Turn on everything in the house you want the generator to power and measure the amps at the meter and size the generator accordingly. Cheap generators run at 3600rpm and the better quality ones at 1800rpm. If using NG for fuel subtract 10-15% of rated power.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
5749 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:51 am to
Working on lights and receptacles is one thing but if you don’t feel comfortable working in the panel with the cover off don’t do it.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36817 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:24 am to
If every storm was a Laura and we are without power 9 days a home standby might be considered. The typical few days without power a portable is better, imo.
A standby is as much as a car. No sense in spending that much.
Posted by Roger Klotz
The Honker Burger
Member since Sep 2009
386 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 8:16 pm to
My mom has the 7500w Firman tri-fuel, but unfortunately I have the Generac GP6500, so not sure hooking up to my natural gas line is an option gor me.

I am, however, trying to prepare my mom's house for the hurricane season. I can't get a solid answer on this, so does anyone have a recommendation on a gas flex to go from the generator to the gas hookup? I haven't even been to find when size connection the generator has--1/2" or 3/4". Is there anything else I'll need to have purchased to get it running? Just want to make sure she's comfortable.

Also, has anyone found a decent rig for the Generac GP6500? I think I may just be out of luck.
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3796 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

Also, has anyone found a decent rig for the Generac GP6500? I think I may just be out of luck.


PNG Tech for GP6500

They also sell some high quality hoses as well.
Posted by Roger Klotz
The Honker Burger
Member since Sep 2009
386 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 9:02 pm to
Thanks! I'll check these guys out.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 8:21 am to
quote:

That’s the problem, I’m comfortable with some electrical work and have done some in the past, but this seems way out of my league.


It depends on your set up. My main breaker box is on the outside of the home so it was very simple to put in an interlock kit and power inlet box on the outside. Materials at the time were probably $150 and took me about an hour. I can run everything except hot water heater and central AC with my little 5500w generator.

Right now I am debating about putting a soft start kit on the AC to be able to run that on the generator too. I'd have to see if I can run that using my 30A connection or even my current generator. If not I'd go ahead and swap out the generator and inlet box for a 50A setup and have plenty of power. I'd be nervous about running AC, freezer, and fridge all on 30A.
Posted by FISH N TIGER
South Louisiana
Member since Jun 2007
1165 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 8:57 am to
I just Ordered the WestingHouse Wgen 20,000 portable generator. Also ordered a soft start for the ac.
The generator has 2-50 ports and were trying to see if we can use both to power the breaker panel, so yeah 100 amps if it works. My neighbor is an electrician so all i need to do is help him with the install.
Posted by lsuCJ5
Holly Springs, NC
Member since Nov 2012
963 posts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

The generator has 2-50 ports and were trying to see if we can use both to power the breaker panel, so yeah 100 amps if it works. My neighbor is an electrician so all i need to do is help him with the install.


please update us on what you do here. i am considering doing something similar
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