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Also, they will replace the seals around the door for a little extra but not the bottom ones. I replaced all the seals myself before they came and did the paint.

Mine were pretty bad when I moved into my house. I decided to give it a shot myself and it came out ok. I did it in 2019 and then had it redone in the summer of 2025, so the stain lasted about 5-6 years facing direct sun in the evening. Here’s a before and after.



In summer of 2025 I used Geaux Feaux painting. You can find them on Facebook, they are good but usually booked for like 6 months in advance. They use paint and make it look like wood. They did several houses in my neighborhood over the last few years. It was $775 for both doors. This is before and after.

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Don’t let expire for more than 60 days, if so can’t do it online.

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I went online last week to try to renew it because I knew it was coming and it wouldn’t let me do it. Said the boat wasn’t registered to my profile or something. This is the third time I’ve renewed it online but never had any trouble before.

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in the "Refined" series, they always have to check tools out.

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Contractors can do this for tools and things like PPE they don’t already have. If we put it on the permit the tool room will allow them to borrow the tool or PPE. If it’s something not intended to be reused they just throw it away.

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Are operators as shitty as portrayed?

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Definitely can be, I’m an operator and I can acknowledge it. Most are use to not having much to do and when you ask them to do something they throw fits. Some are burnt out because they take all the overtime available also though.

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No insurance, no 401k match next to zero PTO

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Are you speaking for contractors? Because this is definitely not true for Dow employees. Not sure Dow controls what a contractors benefits are.

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I’m just pointing out that most of these dudes in this thread are full of shite

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It’s just a conversation man, no need to get all riled up. It’s about perception for the most part. They feel like they have a great home life and they are just answering questions about pay and stuff. If they like what they do and feel like they have a great family life who are you to say they don’t?

You’re a snarky little biotch. lol. You really do seem to have short man syndrome.

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There's only so many hours in a year. The issue is when you talk about making 150-250k, most seem to think working that much OT is normal.

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Again, you don’t understand what that consists of. Just take a base salary, 40 hours a week, at 120k. Every shift worker has built in overtime on top of that. At my salary with built in overtime and just working 3 extra days a month I can hit very close to 200k, that’s just 36 hour of overtime a month. Because we schedule our overtime in 3 day sets, when I get all 3 days my 7th day is double time. So I get at least one double time day a month. It can be tiring working 9, 12 hour shifts in a row though. That’s not mentioning holidays, if I work a holiday I get paid 32 hour for working 12. It really does add up pretty quickly. I really haven’t seen operators get hurt feelings over others salaries, haven’t seen someone post how much they make and an operator get in their feelings. Maybe that’s a personal experience?

It’s not all sunshine and rainbows, especially if it’s not for you or you have a significant other you can’t trust. The shift worker divorce rate is pretty high (I don’t know the numbers, just going off what I see).

There’s pros to being an engineer for sure. But it’s nice to hit a 3 day set of overtime and make a couple thousand extra on a check too. The unit I work in is overstaffed most of the time so we can take off at the last minute if we need to. We also do shift swaps to take get days off to do things with family and stuff. Works out well most of the time. I rarely miss an activity for my kids and wife and make a great living. My situation is not the norm for sure though.

Average starting pay is around $80k a year and average top out is around $130k a year. Those are true for where I work. Thats based on 40 hours a week. Not counting built in overtime and holidays.

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He's the guy who plans a job for me to rebuild a pump, but orders the wrong mechanical seal, forgets one of the bearings and orders no oil seals. Then its my job to tear the pump apart and hope I can find the parts I need somewhere in the shop

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Pretty much sums it up. He’s also someone’s son or brother in law so if you don’t have that connection, you are probably SOL.