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Posted on 8/17/18 at 11:43 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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You can still keep your carbs around 80g
That’s still low carb by most standards. You can hit that by breakfast with a chopped banana in a cup of oatmeal, with milk. A normal healthy breakfast by traditional standards.
That’s only 320 cal from carbs. Most eat 3-4x that
Posted on 8/17/18 at 11:52 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
Dexa is still operator dependent and can fluctuate with intake for the day.
Bodpod and inbody scan are really close to dexa in my experience. Dexa is still best but it's only useful to identify trends just like bodpod and inbody.
Bodpod and inbody scan are really close to dexa in my experience. Dexa is still best but it's only useful to identify trends just like bodpod and inbody.
Posted on 8/18/18 at 6:35 am to lsu777
I used an In Body. We have one at work. I’ll probably do it once a month until the end of the year to track my progress.
I just calculated my macros just Incase I decide to start counting.
I just calculated my macros just Incase I decide to start counting.
Posted on 8/18/18 at 11:47 am to Rust Cohle
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That’s still low carb by most standards. You can hit that by breakfast with a chopped banana in a cup of oatmeal, with milk. A normal healthy breakfast by traditional standards.
That’s only 320 cal from carbs. Most eat 3-4x that
And that’s probably way to many carbs for the average persons daily needs
This post was edited on 8/18/18 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 8/18/18 at 1:07 pm to lsu777
I have never done bodpod but have done inbody. Honestly it seemed about as accurate as the InnerScan scale I bought for $200 which is to say it's so-so.
Posted on 8/18/18 at 1:35 pm to Big Scrub TX
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It's almost literally beside the point of health.
On that Attia podcast I posted, Dr Ron Krauss discussed his 5 criteria for metabolic disease and truncal obesity is on the list. Visceral fat means one has fat around his organs.
However, you are correct that the lack of visible visceral fat doesn't let one off the hook, as there are many people (especially various Asian subsets) who have fat around organs without obesity.
Anyway, that "study" isn't worthy of a rebuttal it's so ill-designed. Oh and the woman running the "study" is a vegan. So there's that--they're sort of like Muslims: not all radical lunatics with no basis in science, but burden of proving they aren't is on them.
I may come back with bullet points but it's one of these:
This post was edited on 8/18/18 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 8/18/18 at 2:15 pm to stout
I've compared dexa and inbody and I've hit the same bf% all 3 times I did it.
Posted on 8/18/18 at 3:46 pm to lsuwontonwrap
If you manage your carbs the same way you do fat and sodium, you'll be fine.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 10:07 am to lsu777
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For most body fat loss has the most impact on health markers.... So it kind of his the point. It's not always true but many cases it is.
Sure
But in this particular case the guy went from 24 to 17
That's a lot different than going from 34 to 27
24 is still within a pretty healthy range
Posted on 8/19/18 at 7:59 pm to Powerman
No doubt, was just pointing that out. I mean in the end no matter what diet you do, there has to be 80-90% compliance or you might as well not be on a diet.
I will be posting up some things here in the next week or so, slowly but surely on why protein should make up 50% or more of your diet, why whole foods are better than junk food even if calories are the same, etc.
I will be posting up some things here in the next week or so, slowly but surely on why protein should make up 50% or more of your diet, why whole foods are better than junk food even if calories are the same, etc.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 9:35 pm to lsu777
Looking forward to it. I've been trying to keep protein at right above 50 percent of calories. I find it tough to not overeat by trying to reach the gram per lb of body weight though.
Might need to go a little leaner on the proteins. Picked up some mahi mahi today.
Might need to go a little leaner on the proteins. Picked up some mahi mahi today.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 10:27 pm to lsuwontonwrap
killing me less than smoking or dipping
Posted on 8/20/18 at 1:30 pm to lsuwontonwrap
A couple of high-quality takedowns of this ridiculous "study". We honestly should just stop reporting on epidemiological studies. It's only scientific in the most nominal sense:
LINK
LINK
Also, from one of those links, here's an interesting snippet and something to always keep in mind:
I'm almost literally amazed at the impact of that obscure bit of history. Just a few years after big sugar paid off Harvard to blame heart disease on saturated fat, we had the American government codifying a nearly wholesale restructuring of the American diet.
LINK
LINK
Also, from one of those links, here's an interesting snippet and something to always keep in mind:
quote:
In 1977 the Senator McGovern committee issued some dietary goals for Americans (Ref 1). The first goal was “Increase carbohydrate consumption to account for 55 to 60 percent of the energy (caloric) intake.” This recommendation did not come from any evidence related to carbohydrate. It was the inevitable consequence of setting a dietary fat guideline of 30% with protein being fairly constant at 15%.
I'm almost literally amazed at the impact of that obscure bit of history. Just a few years after big sugar paid off Harvard to blame heart disease on saturated fat, we had the American government codifying a nearly wholesale restructuring of the American diet.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 6:48 pm to Marciano1
quote:Enjoy your constant fatigue and grogginess.
If you manage your carbs the same way you do fat and sodium, you'll be fine.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 7:02 pm to Big Scrub TX
so they put 315 people who already had preexisting conditions in the low carb zone and stacked 6,000 people at mid carb zone who were already moderately healthy.
Folks, the people who were in the low carb portion of the study were there because they already had Type II Diabetes and still on average, they only lived four years less!
What a piece of shite headline.
Folks, the people who were in the low carb portion of the study were there because they already had Type II Diabetes and still on average, they only lived four years less!
What a piece of shite headline.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 8:41 pm to bayoubengals88
Not to mention the whole 144 g of carbs a day isn't even remotely considered low carb compared to what most people consume on low carb diets now
That would likely be too high to reap any of the benefits of a low carb diet
That would likely be too high to reap any of the benefits of a low carb diet
Posted on 8/21/18 at 2:03 pm to bayoubengals88
If you want a real howler, Nina Teicholz has tracked down a copy of the actual questionaire:
LINK
Yeah, I trust the average American to accurately fill out that monster, months in arrears.
Also, notice the last category: "Meat, sweets, baked goods, cereal, etc."
LINK
Yeah, I trust the average American to accurately fill out that monster, months in arrears.
Also, notice the last category: "Meat, sweets, baked goods, cereal, etc."
Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:30 am to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 8/23/18 at 10:11 am to Big Scrub TX
Chris Kresser
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Another term for agenda-driven bias is “confirmation bias.” This is defined by Wikipedia as “the tendency to interpret new evidence as confirmation of one’s existing beliefs or theories.”
Was this an issue in the Lancet paper? While we can’t be sure, it’s certainly a possibility. The paper was published by a research group that included Walter Willett, a physician and researcher at the Harvard School of Public Health who is notorious for his advocacy of a low-fat, plant-based diet. This alone is not necessarily cause to suspect confirmation bias.
However, in an unprecedented turn of events, Willett was censured in an editorial and feature article in the prestigious journal Nature for “promoting over-simplification of scientific results in the name of public health and engaging in unseemly behavior towards those who venture conclusions that differ to his.” (13)
Willett co-authored a study claiming to link aspartame with cancer, but the study was retracted by Harvard at the last minute because the data did not support that conclusion. Meanwhile, the damage had already been done by sensational media headlines like “Aspartame Causes Cancer.” Sound familiar?
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