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re: Pen and Paper Strength App

Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:15 am to
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
44930 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:15 am to
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If you buy a plan, he emails it to you in PDF. You have to print it out and take with you.


I've been filling out my numbers the night before and just taking a picture of the page. Then all I need in the gym is my phone.
Posted by Norle19
Member since Aug 2022
41 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:24 am to
Hey 777,

New to the board here and currently running my second PPSA plan. Found out about him through you guys and these programs are awesome. I just finished elbow meat and am on my first week of Filling Out The Hoodie 1. Plan is gaining size, especially upper body size and this is my map of things going forward:
Filling out the hoodie 1
Filling out the hoodie 2
Arm farm
Dr. Jacked or Brickhouse(can’t decide) x2
Stacked Jacked and Turning heads x2
Silverback
Pool season 1
Pool season 2
Potentially a bench program or something else
This is all I have right now and am curious what suggestions you may have! I am not doing squatober this year but will next year as well. Thanks for your help and input!
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 9:25 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38066 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:26 am to
quote:

I've been filling out my numbers the night before and just taking a picture of the page. Then all I need in the gym is my phone.



yea you can do that or just use a pdf app that allows you to write it in on your phone.

I personally like to plan 3-6 months out and print them and get them bound with hard covers between each program and essentially form a book and fill it out.

i do my garage gym, but would do this no matter where i worked out. I prefer teh book method. i take little notes too about if something hurt, was too easy, too hard etc. allows me to go back and review last couple months and make adjustments on the fly if needed or to make sure i prehab something if it hurt the last time i did that exercise.

i did w2d1 of silverback last night. enjoyed it. I will say...silverback has a reputation for being really hard and long...i found strongville was much longer and harder but also better for the same reasons. Seems like strongville was usually more like 7 or 8 sets of squats/bench/deadlifts compared to 4 or 5 in silverback.

also less overall supersets in silverback. not gonna lie i love the heavy carries in both combined with the arm exercises. really feel like it is an awesome combo.




Really hope Aaron comes out with a BroVember program for those that run squatober and deadcemeber. He could make it the perfect bridge where it ramps down squats some and offers some DL variety and frequency but mainly focuses on upper body bro lifts. kind of a bro version of lets pregame i.e. deadcemeber prep. or If he doesnt want to, wish Daniel McKim would as their programming is similar(i think ppsa is superior).
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
12939 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 11:56 am to
quote:

I just finished elbow meat

Curious if you saw any grip strength carry over to your deadlifts? I just started week 2 of elbow meat, really hoping I can start using a double overhand grip on all my DLs once it's over
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 11:58 am to
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Curious if you saw any grip strength carry over to your deadlifts? I just started week 2 of elbow meat, really hoping I can start using a double overhand grip on all my DLs once it's over


Hook grip like a man, baw
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
11128 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 12:00 pm to
I think I'm going to start Prequel on Monday to get ready for Squatober.
Posted by Norle19
Member since Aug 2022
41 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:15 pm to
Yeah I definitely did. Elbow meat doesn’t program any conventional deads but there are a lot of snatch grip deadlifts in it and these are harder on my grip(in my opinion). I felt significantly stronger on them after the program, and my grip in general feels stronger for all of my pulling.
Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
10567 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:24 pm to
Have we discussed the programmed "chinups" in most PPSA programs? When I think of chin up, I think of palms facing towards me. But some people use the term chinup and pull-up interchangeably. Just trying to see how everyone else does them, it's usually programmed on a deadlift day, so I'm not sure if I'm targeting the right muscle group.
Posted by TheWeatherMan
Member since Oct 2018
126 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:35 pm to
Some programs call for both.

Chin up= palms toward
Pull up = palms away
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
44930 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:44 pm to
I’ve been doing palms facing chin ups.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38066 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

Some programs call for both.

Chin up= palms toward
Pull up = palms away



this. Double A likes to program heavy very slow chins
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 2:11 pm to
I still am getting a weird.. catching? ... feeling in my left lat when I'm doing chins, be them supinated lat pulldowns or assisted machine chins. Don't get it with pronated grip.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38066 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

Hey 777,

New to the board here and currently running my second PPSA plan. Found out about him through you guys and these programs are awesome. I just finished elbow meat and am on my first week of Filling Out The Hoodie 1. Plan is gaining size, especially upper body size and this is my map of things going forward:
Filling out the hoodie 1
Filling out the hoodie 2
Arm farm
Dr. Jacked or Brickhouse(can’t decide) x2
Stacked Jacked and Turning heads x2
Silverback
Pool season 1
Pool season 2
Potentially a bench program or something else
This is all I have right now and am curious what suggestions you may have! I am not doing squatober this year but will next year as well. Thanks for your help and input!



thanks for joining us

assuming you arent doing squatober & deadcemeber?

if not, i think what you have laid out is fine.

I would do brickhouse after arm farm but only run once. I would run strongville over silverback, both are good but strongville has more volume especially upper body volume and is better for size.

the 2 newer bench programs are awesome for upper body size. periodic table of thickness is also awesome. hypertrophy is pretty good but behind those imo.

I have not done many of the programs but i have them all, even the old ones that no longer are on the site. i think you have a good plan laid out for sure.

i would set your training max using 90% max. start light and get after it and push yourself. unless you are older and have had back injuries try and not use the weight belt. get strong as frick by adding 10lbs to your max(notice i didnt say training max) on the lower body lifts and 5lbs on the upper every month.

i promise you are going to be much stronger than your training max. go read some of jim wendlers stuff on using sub max weights and getting strong as frick.

good luck and make sure you post more. this thread and the daily thread are pretty awesome and everyone does a pretty good job of holding people accountable.


Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38066 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

I still am getting a weird.. catching? ... feeling in my left lat when I'm doing chins, be them supinated lat pulldowns or assisted machine chins. Don't get it with pronated grip.


then do the grip that doesnt hurt honestly.
Posted by Cabrio
Member since Nov 2019
6 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 3:51 pm to
Why add it to the max instead of the TM and do you think people should be doing this to the 5/3/1 programs aswell or just PPSA I ask because Jim specifically says to only go up in your TM
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38066 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

Why add it to the max instead of the TM and do you think people should be doing this to the 5/3/1 programs aswell or just PPSA I ask because Jim specifically says to only go up in your TM


no in the OG book jim says...add to your max then calculate your new training max off of that.

you can do it off the training max, but expect to have to do the whole 5 cycles forward, 3 back thing that jim talks about.

if you are coming back from a layoff or just want to start low, go ahead and add to training max. but if you have been after it a while, that is too fast of a pace.

jim advocates for the 7th week protocol now where you test your max after every 2 cycles essentially.
Posted by Norle19
Member since Aug 2022
41 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:12 pm to
Absolutely, appreciate it! Happy to be apart of the community! I will be posting progress and updates here as well. I can’t believe these programs aren’t more mainstream! I have done several 531 templates, n suns, gzcl, and various other “power building” type programs but have never responded to or enjoyed training as much as I have with these.

And sounds good, noted about Brickhouse haha it is a ton of work. Do you think subbing a run of benchaholic or all I want for Christmas is a big bench would be good there in between Brickhouse and Stacked and jacked?

And as for this year I’m going to focus a bit more on upper body before really hitting lower body hard next year! Noted about strongville, I’ll definitely add that in favor of silverback! Your review for it was awesome. Again thanks for your help! Really appreciate the feedback. Excited to start posting here more frequently!
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38066 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

And sounds good, noted about Brickhouse haha it is a ton of work. Do you think subbing a run of benchaholic or all I want for Christmas is a big bench would be good there in between Brickhouse and Stacked and jacked?


Well I will say both bench programs, S&J and Brickhouse are all lots of work. Both bench and Brickhouse are 5 day a week and Aaron says S&J is the hardest ppsa program and I agree. I think you should prolly do something like arm farm again or filling out the hoodie 1, something easier between there or maybe hypertrophy.

Try not to stack 5 day a week programs back to back or any of the back to back with S&J, strongville or period table of thickness. Those are the really hard 4 day programs.
Posted by Norle19
Member since Aug 2022
41 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 5:48 pm to
Sounds great. I will plan on that then! Stacked and Jacked certainly looks like a lot, I’m looking forward to that one! I will likely run Filling out the Hoodie 1 in between to balance some of the work out. Or maybe even 21 to party, that program intrigues me and seems a little(relatively) easier.

Thanks for your tips again, I’m super excited to run through these programs and see what they do for my strength and size. Kind of embracing the bulk rn and enjoying putting in the work to support the cals! The programs are certainly a challenge but are highly enjoyable and well structured. Filling out the Hoodie 1 has been great thus far.
Posted by Cabrio
Member since Nov 2019
6 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:41 am to
Thanks always love to pick your brain on these topics
Is there any chance you could explain the 7th week protocol I don't really understand how and when to use it even after reading about it
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