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I'm tired of being skinny all my life; can you guys help me?

Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:30 pm
Posted by hikingfan
Member since Jun 2013
1659 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:30 pm
In my 30s. 5'10". I was 135 lbs when I graduated from college. These days I I fluctuate between 150-155 lbs soaking wet.

No matter how much weights I lift, I am just not able to put on any muscle or gain any weight. When I do try to eat a lot, which I hate by the way, I just end up putting weight in the wrong places around my waist and start getting man-boobs. I have a small frame to go with my tendency to be skinny fat to make matters worse - My wrist is 6.5", my biceps are only 14" and thighs are 22" despite training them. I have to be one of the hardest gainers out there. I'm just depressed and want to change the way I look.

If I wanted start juicing or taking steroids, where would I start and could I do it legally? I have heard about anabolic steroids, testosterone, PEDs and HGHs, but don't know the difference between them, and I have no idea how to start taking them or where to even get them from and how often to take them. Are there online resources for this?

If all these options are illegal, can you let me know of some alternate ways to gain mass? Is there a particular supplement or diet cheat code like chugging liquid eggs everyday that will help me gain the right kind of weight? Please help my skinny arse out baws. I just want to get bigger and look better.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 1:32 pm
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6838 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 6:55 am to
Before doing anything I would go and get a full blood panel done. Find out what your numbers are. There could be an issue or issues.

Wanting to jump right into anabolics isn’t the answer. Eating everything in sight isn’t the answer. Doing 2 hour marathon workouts isn’t the answer. You aren’t going to do yourself any good doing any of those things. After you get blood work done come back and there are several people here who can help you.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 6:56 am
Posted by SaintTiger80
Member since Feb 2020
450 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:11 am to
What’s your training history?

Meaning what type exercise or workouts have you done in the past to try to put on muscle? For how long?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:23 am to
Download the RP diet app
Posted by BeachDude022
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Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:05 am to
Post your workout schedule and routine for us
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 8:05 am
Posted by aldawg2323
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2010
412 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:05 am to
IMO nothing improves a mans physical stature more than squats, deadlifts and shoulder presses. focus only on these 3 big compound lifts for a few months and i dont see how you could not start to grow, and your diet will naturally increase

there are many youtube vids on these lifts. i recommend the Starting Strength vids
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36186 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:24 am to
quote:

No matter how much weights I lift, I am just not able to put on any muscle or gain any weight.


At least your issue is simple.
Food.

Gaining wait is all science and biology.
You must eat more calories than you burn.
You’re gaining wait in the wrong places because of the food you are eating. The cleaner you eat, the less fat you will gain. But you will. gain. fat. It’s part of bulking up and impossible to avoid.

Lifting weights and adequate protein will give you the results you want. Sounds like you’ll just have to eat your arse off.
Steroids are not the answer and have been proven to cause issues if you ever want to have children.

quote:

When I do try to eat a lot, which I hate by the way


Most people don’t like it and most people don’t enjoy the taste.
But EVERYONE loves the results.
We do it for the results.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 8:27 am
Posted by Atttaboy
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2014
326 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:02 am to
I’ve watched people in the gym for over 30 years. They go in several times per week and lift and never change their body composition.

What they have in common is that they don’t bring focus or intensity. They don’t perform controlled or full range of motion sets, not do I see them actually train any set to even near failure. They also don’t train all body parts and work on new or different lifts. It’s always the same lifts, in the same order, with the same weight with no intensity. And, they tend to be skinny fat or just fat.

They show up, they lift, they leave and they don’t change. You may need to get a trainer or get someone in the gym that has muscles to review your routine and intensity.
Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
10362 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:03 am to
I was in the same boat coming out of college. 6' about 150 to 155 on a good day. The only thing that has ever helped me gain weight/muscle was squats, deadlifts, compound lifts. I'm up to 180 now but that has been steady the last 5 or so years. Do a linear progression program like starting strength or 5x5 strong lifts that focus on the big lifts. Then move into a more complete program when you stall out a couple times.

Get a quality mass gainer/meal replacement like Axe and sledge Homemade Core MRP. Just add something like those in between your complete meals.

Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3140 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:22 am to
So assuming your diet isn't crazy bad when you "try to eat alot", and you actually go to the gym and lift heavy (for you) weights, I'd get your T checked and see if you need a boost.

Conversely, assuming your biologics are all relatively in line, make sure you are eating the right things. Eating a lot doesn't get you big. Eating a lot of protein and good carbs does. At 150 lbs, I'd probably shoot for 165-175g protein a day. Protein is the most important macro to hit, make sure you are getting protein; that's how muscle is built. Chicken, eggs, beef, no more than 2 shakes/day. Fish if you want but...bleh...

Then carbs, you should prob aim for around 300g carb. Oatmeal and rice and sweet potatoes. Beer and sugar aint the carbs you want. You can have those, but make sure you get the protein and 300g of good carbs in first.
Then get maybe 70-100g fat, little more flexibility there. I hit my fats with avocados and peanut butter almost exclusively (plus whatever fat is in my proteins).

Don't get your calories all at once; don't make an egg white, protein scoop, 2 cup oatmeal with 3 TBSP peanut butter shake in the morning that has half your macros in it and pretend you're half way done. Try to split it up into 5 meals a day if you can (I eat 6). I've found for most people it's easiest to do your three breakfast/lunch/dinner meals with two shakes/snack type meals between. There's your meal plan. Saying you hate to eat a lot makes me think you don't eat nearly enough, even when you do try to eat a lot, and that's probably what is limiting you.

In the gym, just make sure you're pushing yourself and lifting heavy for you 3-5x/week. If you aren't doing cardio, add that in to help your appetite but don't overdo it while you're trying to gain weight. 20 minutes of moderately increased heart rate 3x a week.

Assuming your test is fine, you do that for a month and I guarantee you'll start growing. At 5'10" you do that for a year and your baseline will be in the 170's no problem.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6552 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:39 am to
quote:

When I do try to eat a lot, which I hate by the way
You need:
1. To eat protein rich foods
2. Follow a program (Starting Strength or if willing to pay, something like a Jeff Nippard beginner program)

If your girlfriend doesn't like you gaining a little fat, find a new one. There are tons out there and they all do the same thing.
Posted by Bonkers119
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2015
10159 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 10:26 am to
I was like you, 145-150 most of my adult life at 5'11. You need to get on a strength training program, and stick to it. If you have trouble eating, make sure you supplement your daily calorie intake with protein/mass gainer shakes. That's what it took for me to finally push past some weight plateaus.

Now I'm 180-185, and I'm the best shape of my life. You're 5'10, you can definitely handle an extra 30lbs on your frame without looking "fat".
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 10:27 am
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
4901 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

Before doing anything I would go and get a full blood panel done.


this. also evaluate your nutritional macros (calories in, protein gram, fat grams, carb grams) and post here, can give some advice. you might be getting enough cals but if your deficient or balance is off you wont grow muscle effectively.

plenty of good advice givers here. youre young enough that i doubt you testosterone is an issue, but could bem hence the panel. check everything out before going to PEDS. way easier to frick yourself up with those than most people realize.

whats your stress levels like? Sleep habits?
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 12:37 pm
Posted by whit
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
10999 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 12:45 pm to
Man just take 500mg test cyp a week with 40mg dbol a day. You’ll gain some mass.
Posted by hikingfan
Member since Jun 2013
1659 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

What’s your training history?

Meaning what type exercise or workouts have you done in the past to try to put on muscle? For how long?

I trained sporadically when I was in college and again off and on in my 20s, as I had a job that required me to travel and be on the road a lot of the time. I would work out for a few weeks and then would fall off the wagon and it would be hard to get back on track after long breaks. Then in my early 30s, we had two children back to back, so there was a couple of years there where I didn't set foot in a gym.

Now in my mid-late 30s and have started working out fairly regularly since May 2020 as my wife got a Peloton during the early days of the pandemic and it was a way to stay fit while staying home. So over the past couple of years, I have been riding the bike about once a week. I avoid cardio since I know it is not good for someone trying to build muscle. But I have been doing the functional strength exercises on their app 4-5 times a week (20-30 mins per day), but with only the dumbbells we have at home (10-25 lbs, nothing heavy).

While doing these functional strength training exercises at home has helped me improve my posture and also eliminated random body and back aches, it has only given me a slight definition in my muscles, but no size gains even after two years of doing it. The problem is most probably the lack of heavy weights which I don't have at home.

Just last month I started going back in person to the office and I found out that my new office has a gym attached to it. So I went to the gym a few times last week to see what my baseline strength was like. I could only dumbell press like 45 lbs in each hand, curl 35 lbs dumbbells and deadlift like 135 lbs. I know that sucks by the standards here. Just wondering is it too late to start building strength at my age? I don't know if I will ever be able to lift heavy weights, since I don't really have a long sustained period of heavy strength workout foundation/base to build off of.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31205 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 2:49 pm to
No to anabolics

Yes to 200g protein a day

Yes to a calorie surplus

Yes to a lbs of beef a day

Yes to a dozen eggs a day

For the mext 24 weeks, Follow the greyskull lp aesthetics template, eat in a calorie surplus meaning if you aren't gaining weight you have to eat more, eat 2ppg protein a day, track everything, sleep 8 hours a night


Do the above and I promise if you out effort into it, you will look like a different person in 6 months.
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
4901 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 2:55 pm to
i think the access to the new equipment will help. 10-25 lb dumb bells is a pretty limiting range for most men.

Try not to focus too much on the weight for now. Focus on your form. Watch some videos specifically on body parts you are looking to improve. i think understanding the science behind how a muscle is moving and helps understand why some exercises are better than others or why some might be better for you specifically. understanding all of this will help you understand what form you should be having and why its important.

if machines are something that make you feel more comfortable dont be afraid to use them. free weight in general are better but machines are very good and can supplement until your techniques get better. I still use machines for a lot of exercises.

I will still say that you need to evaluate your nutrition. you can put all the quality work you want into the gym but if you have bad nutritional practice, you will be really really putting yourself way back. Your body is a machine, and it needs to right type of fuel to run right and the right components to build bigger and stronger.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3140 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 3:03 pm to
Ah, well there is your problem. You are basically not weight training.

You've got to move some heavier weights to get that muscle building. And have consistency. Much more than a few weeks at a time.

And again, by heavy, that's not comparing what you're lifting to other people in the gym or to people posting here. In the gym, it's you vs you and that's it. Start lifting in your 10 rep max range for 3-4 sets per movement. If you are able to do 11-12 reps at a weight, bump up 5-10 lbs so you progress. Get the major compounds in (bench press, squat, deadlift if you can or pullups/lat pull downs if not) and track those weights so you continue progressing. Supplement with complimentary exercises and just make sure you're pushing yourself on those, but you can track those weights or not, no big deal.

You're going to want to do those 10 rep range lifts for a while, probably a few months, to build a real base. Then you're gonna bump up to 4-6 rep range really pushing yourself. Then start looking at following a program.

People will tell you to get on a program immediately, and that'll work better if you stick to it. But programs are complicated and tough to handle at the start, so if you don't feel like doing that you certainly don't have to.

Main thing is, start hitting those compound lifts heavier and you'll start building muscle pretty quick.
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
2124 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

Just wondering is it too late to start building strength at my age?


Absolutely not!
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
15561 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 4:06 pm to
I'm the same kinda mold as you. Skinny with a big mid section. I can gain 10lbs easy, but its from bad food and goes all to my waist.
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