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re: I'm tired of being skinny all my life; can you guys help me?
Posted on 6/18/22 at 12:35 am to lsu777
Posted on 6/18/22 at 12:35 am to lsu777
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Follow the greyskull lp aesthetics template
I found your Greyskull thread. Wow, there is a ton of information there! I have to go through it, but is there a simple way to start the program that's easy to stick to without complicating/thinking too much?
Thank you and everyone else that has weighed in with suggestions.
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Posted on 6/18/22 at 8:36 am to hikingfan
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but is there a simple way to start the program that's easy to stick to without complicating/thinking too much?
Yea, go back to the basics.
Day 1: Chest, triceps, and shoulders
Day 2: back and biceps
Day 3: legs
Repeat.
Something easy and simple just to get you into a routine you can keep. The guys on this board all use great methods, but for a beginner they can be complicated and overwhelming. Just break it down to the basics
Posted on 6/18/22 at 11:23 am to lsu777
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No to anabolics
Yes to 200g protein a day
Yes to a calorie surplus
Yes to a lbs of beef a day
Yes to a dozen eggs a day
For the mext 24 weeks, Follow the greyskull lp aesthetics template, eat in a calorie surplus meaning if you aren't gaining weight you have to eat more, eat 2ppg protein a day, track everything, sleep 8 hours a night
Listen to this guy, especially the greyskull LP program, and push the intensity.
Posted on 6/18/22 at 9:26 pm to hikingfan
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Follow the greyskull lp aesthetics template
Life changing for me. I'll be 54 in a couple of months, body is back like it was when I was 35. I went 12 weeks before resetting, which I did following a two week out of the country vacation. Follow it and especially do the pushup/pull up homework. I put a Rogue pull up bar in and made it a priority. I use Noom to log my meals, but there are plenty of good choices for that including some that allow you to break out macros. Cut your carbs, watch you fats, and crank up the protein.
Posted on 6/19/22 at 12:10 am to BigPapiDoesItAgain
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Life changing for me. I'll be 54 in a couple of months, body is back like it was when I was 35.
That's great to hear and quite motivating. :
Posted on 6/19/22 at 4:40 pm to BigPapiDoesItAgain
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Cut your carbs, watch you fats, and crank up the protein
Every thread is the same thing, more protein. There are a lot of people that cannot eat this level of protein. That is why many fail on the carnivore or keto diets. It's not for everyone. God bless those that can eat meat like this, it's just not for everyone.
As far as the OP, you are blessed. Stay lean. Small growth will be amplified on your physique. Don't add 20-30lbs or something ridiculous. Just up your volume, after medically checking out. There is probably a supplement or shake that will help you gain a lb or two a month. Don't go overboard..
Posted on 6/19/22 at 4:44 pm to brmark70816
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There are a lot of people that cannot eat this level of protein
Why?
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There is probably a supplement or shake that will help you gain a lb or two a month. Don't go overboard
Oh, got it, you just don't know what the frick you are talking about
Posted on 6/19/22 at 5:49 pm to brmark70816
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Every thread is the same thing, more protein. There are a lot of people that cannot eat this level of protein. That is why many fail on the carnivore or keto diets. It's not for everyone. God bless those that can eat meat like this, it's just not for everyone. As far as the OP, you are blessed. Stay lean. Small growth will be amplified on your physique. Don't add 20-30lbs or something ridiculous. Just up your volume, after medically checking out. There is probably a supplement or shake that will help you gain a lb or two a month. Don't go overboard..
….huh?
Posted on 6/19/22 at 5:56 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Why?
Medically there are lots of conditions that prohibit high protein diets and it can stress your kidneys.
Personally it blocks me up and fiber supplements don't help. I toot like crazy and go days without eliminating.
It's not new that digestive issues many go through on these diets or upping their proteins have occurred.
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Oh, got it, you just don't know what the frick you are talking about
I am sure you are right and know way more than I, especially when it comes to bulking up and adding muscle. I'm not debating any of that.
I just don't believe the OP will be better off adding 20-30 lbs, most of which will be fat. You tell me. How much muscle, even as a novice weight lifter, could he safely (realistically) add in 3 months? 6 months?
Posted on 6/19/22 at 5:59 pm to brmark70816
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I am sure you are right and know way more than I, especially when it comes to bulking up and adding muscle. I'm not debating any of that.
Then why open your mouth?
Posted on 6/19/22 at 6:07 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Then why open your mouth?
Cause I can.
It is an open forum where people offer opinions and talk about topics. I am giving my view on it. Offering a different perspective.
Obviously the OP has a diet that does not include high levels of protein. You aren't curious why or what may happen if he massively changes his diet?
Posted on 6/19/22 at 6:10 pm to brmark70816
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Cause I can.
Doesn't mean you should
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Offering a different perspective.
You're offering a bunch of bullshite that you don't know what you are talking about
Posted on 6/19/22 at 6:25 pm to brmark70816
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I toot like crazy
Carbohydrates cause this not protein.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 12:25 am to hikingfan
Man, you have no idea how much I feel your situation. My natural height and weight if I didn’t do anything is 5’10” at about 140lbs. My numbers and weight are shite right now because I had to stop lifting for 3 months for health reasons (been back lifting for about a month now), but January of 2020 I weight 170 and had roughly 11% body fat. That month I did 1RM and benched 340, squatted 405, and deadlifted 445. I looked great and felt great. Not writing this to brag, but to just tell you that it can be done.
I feel like that was at our getting pretty close to my natural limit. All I can say is it’s tempting to get on the juice because of how hard it is for someone with your body type to gain weight. I know it’s fricking hard. But, you really should never touch the PEDs until you’ve pushed your natural limits (if ever at all). PEDs aren’t going to make you magically gain muscle. You still have to eat and train right so you really wouldn’t see much of a benefit jumping into it until you know how to manage your diet anyways.
On diet when gaining, my rule of thumb is trying to hit 200g of protein and at least 2600 calories a day. Track everything religiously for at least 3 months. After that, you’ll learn how to eyeball things.
It’s going to be hard to eat what you need to eat. I don’t know what it looks like for you, but I drank eggs, ate a shitload of ground beef, and supplemented what I needed with protein.
It sounds like we have extremely similar body types. If you want to gain, you’re going have to eat and it’s going to suck until you adjust to it. It’s just a commitment that you’ll have to make just like I did when I was tired of being the small, skinny dude.
ETA: stop doing “bodybuilding” workouts. Like others have said, focus on strength and run Greyskull LP, 5/3/1 etc. More strength = more muscle (generally).
I feel like that was at our getting pretty close to my natural limit. All I can say is it’s tempting to get on the juice because of how hard it is for someone with your body type to gain weight. I know it’s fricking hard. But, you really should never touch the PEDs until you’ve pushed your natural limits (if ever at all). PEDs aren’t going to make you magically gain muscle. You still have to eat and train right so you really wouldn’t see much of a benefit jumping into it until you know how to manage your diet anyways.
On diet when gaining, my rule of thumb is trying to hit 200g of protein and at least 2600 calories a day. Track everything religiously for at least 3 months. After that, you’ll learn how to eyeball things.
It’s going to be hard to eat what you need to eat. I don’t know what it looks like for you, but I drank eggs, ate a shitload of ground beef, and supplemented what I needed with protein.
It sounds like we have extremely similar body types. If you want to gain, you’re going have to eat and it’s going to suck until you adjust to it. It’s just a commitment that you’ll have to make just like I did when I was tired of being the small, skinny dude.
ETA: stop doing “bodybuilding” workouts. Like others have said, focus on strength and run Greyskull LP, 5/3/1 etc. More strength = more muscle (generally).
This post was edited on 6/20/22 at 12:37 am
Posted on 6/20/22 at 7:23 am to hikingfan
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I found your Greyskull thread. Wow, there is a ton of information there! I have to go through it, but is there a simple way to start the program that's easy to stick to without complicating/thinking too much?
Thank you and everyone else that has weighed in with suggestions.
so easiest thing is just do the template labeled
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GSLP for Aesthetics
do each exercise starting with the barbell or bodyweight. On the barbell lifts, add 2.5 lbs per session. push the last set to failure.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 7:24 am to Dixie Normus
i will say 1 thing.....if you dont make a living from your body, dont use steroids period. not worth it.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 7:32 am to lsu777
Agreed. Risk just isn’t worth it. I’ve thought about pulling the trigger on SARMs a handful of times and the fear of the unknown always stops me 
Posted on 6/20/22 at 7:49 am to lsu777
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i will say 1 thing.....if you dont make a living from your body, dont use steroids period. not worth it.
Everyone listen to this. It isn’t worth it for recreational exercise/bodybuilding.
This post was edited on 6/20/22 at 7:50 am
Posted on 6/20/22 at 8:13 am to Dixie Normus
i mean more then likely you would be fine, all things considered if its only one cycle. but the entire cycle your heart health will be in danger, not to mention you will have lower test levels even if you recover "fully". so even if you do a proper PCT and then really get after it with supps to help the heart, you still put strain on your heart for a couple months.
so not only did your heart get strained, more than likely you will have less gains than before cause you are going to have lower natural test levels, for many older guys they wont recover and then you will be on TRT rest of your life.
TRT sounds fun, until you have done it a couple years, then it frickign sucks hitting scar tissue all the time if going IM(even with rotating sites) or bruising on the stomach from SUBq. it fricking sucks.
so not only did your heart get strained, more than likely you will have less gains than before cause you are going to have lower natural test levels, for many older guys they wont recover and then you will be on TRT rest of your life.
TRT sounds fun, until you have done it a couple years, then it frickign sucks hitting scar tissue all the time if going IM(even with rotating sites) or bruising on the stomach from SUBq. it fricking sucks.
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