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re: How to get enough protein

Posted on 1/6/25 at 7:11 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36531 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 7:11 am to
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Is it the same impact as eating a whole food? I'm honestly asking, because it seems too easy. Does the answer to this question change if it's cooked?


whey isolate is just a waste product from making cheese and has a bio score of 159 which one of the highest but it is one of the fastest acting, absorbing ~20g/hr compared 2-3 for beef and 5-7 for chicken, its just absorbed and processed much faster.

because its processed so much faster the thermoeffect of the protein is less. Where beef may be around 20-25% total calories burned just to process, whey iso is going to be in the 10-15% so less calories are burned just to process

so not exactly like food overall but it has some advantages over food too. Theoretically you could absorb ~500g of protein if it only came from whey isolate and could keep Muscle protein synthesis maxed 24 hours a day but that is unrealistic

only peptopro hydroliyzed caseinate is absorbed faster and at a higher rate that whey iso and that shite is dumb expensive


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Any opinion on the Fairlife milk? I hate not to have whole, cream or half/half, but I'm trying to lower cals and sat fat.


this is what we drink in my house. I dont care about some video of them being mean to cows or the controversy....we drink it cause it match the macros we need/want and taste the best imo.
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
3159 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:26 am to
Since you like sardines try Polar kipper snacks. They taste good and don't stink. Has 12g of protein, some omega 3 and high vitamin d.
Posted by Boss
Member since Dec 2007
1733 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:37 am to
Costco has the fairlife protein shakes. 150 calories, 30 g. Could pound two of those for lunch.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Faulkner County
Member since Jun 2009
15376 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:49 am to
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Fairlife milk
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we drink it cause it match the macros
That ain't no lie. There's a big difference in carbs of Fairlife milk vs. others.

I tend to look at my macros a week at a time. The carbs consumed in a week's time in Fairlife milk vs. others is pretty substantial.
Posted by grsharky
Member since Dec 2019
271 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:14 am to
Get a pack or two of ground chicken/turkey and make different types of meatballs out of them. It's easy and you can make a big variety (buffalo, bbq, taco, Italian, etc). They take 5 minutes to mix up and 30 minutes in the oven. Lots of protein and can they can keep for a few days in the fridge.
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
5562 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:46 am to
I've switched to turkey burgers recently from hamburgers for a change of pace. Cooking them in the smoker too is delicious.
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
15029 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 1:06 pm to
Eggs

60~ grams of protein from chicken/steak for both lunch and dinner

50g from protein shake

Pick up another 20-25 from black beans, yogurts
Posted by calcotron
Member since Nov 2007
10054 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 1:51 pm to
Just eggs isn't enough, I always mix in some grind beef or sausage. Makes it taste more fun too. Couple glasses of milk, chicken thighs, pork chops. I usually only do salad with dinner other than meat, so I'm eating more than 8 oz of meat.
Posted by TigerReich
Member since Dec 2024
525 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 3:33 pm to
The Fairlife Elite version is low fat w/ 42g of protein alone. Addding 1 scoop of most protein powders pushes it to 67-70g. Less than 400 calories and a huge chunk of the daily macro need. Chocolate, strawberry, vanilla flavors…mmm
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27880 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 3:56 pm to
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Just eggs isn't enough, I always mix in some grind beef or sausage. Makes it taste more fun too.


We meal prep on Sundays and will make a batch of egg cups with cottage cheese, some spinach, a little cheese, and maybe some bacon or sausage. Quick 45-60 seconds in the microwave and they are good to go. Much higher in protein than just eggs.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37519 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 4:12 pm to
Make it easy. When it becomes a pain in the arse is when a lot of people give up.

Eat whatever protein you can in a day without a hassle or breaking the bank.
Then fill in the gaps with shakes to hit your protein goal.
Posted by SkintBack
SoLo
Member since Nov 2015
1882 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 4:17 pm to
Go to ChatGPT and type "make a meal plan and grocery list for 7 days, 2/3/ or 4 meals a day, at least 200g of protein per day, using these foods.......(list all of the foods you want to or willing to eat). It will list them all out, with macros and give you a grocery list of like "42 oz of chicken, 42 oz of 93/7 ground beef, 4 cans tuna, 20 oz on greek yogurt etc."
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
15029 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 6:28 pm to
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Just eggs isn't enough


I agree. What I listed in my post is what I eat in a day to get around 200+ grams of protein.

Eggs are the appetizer to the day.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170436 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:29 pm to
Protein overnight oats is a good mid morning snack or a breakfast that you could work into your rotation
Posted by tigerfan7806
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2007
455 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 7:11 am to
Have to prepare your meals, it’s a must. I’ve went from 475 to 230. No medicine or surgery. 2 servings mixed with a teaspoon of honey pre workout or a barebell protein bar if I’m running late. I’ll have ground turkey or 96/4 beef with egg whites for breakfast. Greek yogurt mixed with a scoop of flavored protein for snack around 1030. Chicken, green vegetable and a carb for lunch. I’m usually sitting around 120g of protein around that time. Muscle milk or something of that nature around 3 and then another round of meat vegetable and carb for dinner. I try to end the day around 225 g of protein. You have to get creative. When it gets boring switch it up. Incorporate new foods or recipes when you start to lag or burnout. I’m not saying this will work for anyone just the ways I try to get protein. Mixing a protein powder with Greek yogurt gets you around 40 g of protein alone. 5 servings of egg whites mixed with a serving of sugar free chocolate syrup taste just like chocolate milk. 25 g of protein right there. Getting creative is the key.
Posted by Shoney
Tennessee Hills
Member since Jan 2014
339 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 1:00 pm to
After doing a lot of research my understanding of protein intake is that it is not grams per pound that is required. It is grams per muscle weight in our body that we need. If you weigh 200lbs and 150 of those pounds is muscle then you need 150 grams a day to grow muscle, even less to maintain muscle. There is no way to get a lot of extra protein without adding extra calories. If you are bulking that's fine, but if you are trying to maintain or lose weight 120-150 grams should be fine every day.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36531 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 1:49 pm to
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After doing a lot of research my understanding of protein intake is that it is not grams per pound that is required. It is grams per muscle weight in our body that we need. If you weigh 200lbs and 150 of those pounds is muscle then you need 150 grams a day to grow muscle, even less to maintain muscle. There is no way to get a lot of extra protein without adding extra calories. If you are bulking that's fine, but if you are trying to maintain or lose weight 120-150 grams should be fine every day.


its actually less when bulking....roughly ~0.82g/lbs of lean mass for adult sedentary male...so a novice lifter

when cutting more is needed to maintain muscle mass....usually in the 2.2-2.6g per kg of ideal bodyweight


Martin Berkham covers much of this in the leangains book and i agree with him that due to thermic effect of food aka Dietary induced thermogensis(DIT) that you should shoot for 50% of calories from protein during a cut and as you plateau slowly raise ot 60%.
Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
5284 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 3:14 pm to
I go super heavy on Protein at lunch. My main sources are chicken breast, taco meat from deer, tilapia, and precooked shrimp when it is on sale. Usually, the only other calories I eat at lunch is dipping sauce for these proteins. I then grab a protein shake as I head back to work. Then supper I can have a meal with an average amount of protein. If I am still lacking at night I will dump a scoop of protein powder in plain greek yogurt. That almost always gets me across the line if I am not there already. This is what I have found works for me.
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
5983 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:37 am to
it seems like you got a lot of good info so i wont chime in too much.

protein powder, have as much as you want.

increase your breakfast protein. i eat 2 cups of ratio brand protein. Small stomach load, tastes good, and that's 50 grams protein right there. Between that and a 2 scoop post workout shake I'm at 100 grams for m daily intake from two sources.

also as others have said, sounds like you are probably actually hitting a good protein amount already for your goals.

cheers.
Posted by Tenfold
Member since Mar 2023
335 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:19 pm to
This has been a very useful thread. The creativity came out nowhere and makes the process so much easier and fun.
It has been a breeze to get my protein goals for the last few days. Appreciate all the help. Many thanks.
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