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Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:23 pm to
Posted by Turbotoes
Clown world
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:23 pm to
We're the same age then. I went through something similar about 2-4 years ago or so. Was also a long time weed smoker. I would puff and then i would have panic attacks, some to the point that i felt like i had to manually tell myself to take breaths or i wouldn't breath. Feelings that my heart was about to explode too. This was all mental. Went for physicals and ekg and everything was fine. But it was bad. Sometimes I would keel over in the floor in the fetal position hoping it would pass or in bed i would wake up after first dozing off because i thought i stopped breathing. I know it sounds crazy but i bet it doesn't sound crazy to you right now.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105270 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 4:11 pm to
My wife is like this. Tbh xanax is the only thing that helps her.
Posted by lob1284
Houma by birth
Member since Mar 2006
5060 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 4:18 pm to
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This is what i'm trying to avoid.


Completely understand. All I can say is I had the same thought at one point, but if you get to a point where it really affects your quality of life I’d advise you to have an open mind. Not saying you absolutely need medication because everyone is different and a psychiatrist makes that determination, I’m just saying whatever stigma I had about mental meds went away once I went through with it. Again, it’s really common and not a huge deal.
Posted by CHiPs25
Member since Apr 2014
3114 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 5:10 pm to
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xanax is the only thing that helps her.



My wife has some so i'm going to have a few tito's and take one to get some sleep tonight. She has 1mg so i'm going to take 1/2 and then take 1/2 tomorrow before work to see if that does anything.

I'm not a fan at all of pharma. But, I can definately see how people that live with this long-term can and want to end it all. I find a lot of my thoughts are me just feeling sorry for myself and it's this perpetual loop.

I hate it. I really f-ucking hate it.
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 5:21 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 5:13 pm to
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My wife has some so i'm going to have a few tito's and take one to get some sleep tonight


Mixing alcohol and unprescribed drugs sounds like a great idea.
Posted by CHiPs25
Member since Apr 2014
3114 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 5:22 pm to
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Mixing alcohol and unprescribed drugs sounds like a great idea.


I'm sure it's not recommended from a doctor but it's not like i'm going to drink 1L of titos. I'll probably have 2 drinks and call it a night.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:17 pm to
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I can definately see how people that live with this long-term can and want to end it all. I find a lot of my thoughts are me just feeling sorry for myself and it's this perpetual loop.


With this, I'm very glad you've begun the process of finding help. Don't try to "tough it out" or "man up" with depression and anxiety, it just makes things worse.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
5234 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:09 pm to
What is your "diet" like in general? Don't overlook the details of that. It might really help to avoid excitotoxins like aspartame and MSG. Also, if you're deficient in some vitamins/minerals, that could be an issue. Based on what you described, iodine and magnesium may be especially helpful. Of course you always want to make sure you're drinking enough water.

There are some supplements you can look at for relaxation. GABA (gamma aminobutyric acid) is one of the best. In my opinion, better than L-theanine. But I think it's more effective when not taken every day.

Meditation is a good idea. If you have trouble getting into that, I can't overstate how helpful yoga can be. You don't even need to go to a class. Just find a good space and drop deep into it. Deep stretching and just kind of listen to your body for the movements. Relaxing music and a foam roller can be really helpful too.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
77890 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:12 pm to
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My wife is like this. Tbh xanax is the only thing that helps her.


That’s a bad spot to be in. Please have her go see a good psychiatrist. Xanax will only make things worse long term.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
77890 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:13 pm to
quote:


My wife has some so i'm going to have a few tito's and take one to get some sleep tonight. She has 1mg so i'm going to take 1/2 and then take 1/2 tomorrow before work to see if that does anything.


This is a terrible plan.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37872 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:18 pm to
Turn off your brain. Takes lots of practice.

First and most importantly, pray.
Ask God for help and tell Him your goals.
Then..

Sit in silence.
Focus on only the sounds around you.
Clear your brain from thought as long as you can. It will be 1-2 seconds at first and then will be 30 seconds to a minute in no time. Keep practicing.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105270 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:40 pm to
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That’s a bad spot to be in. Please have her go see a good psychiatrist. Xanax will only make things worse long term


She's been seeing a shrink for years. Unfortunately she's a nonresponder to most meds
Posted by rebel cat
Member since Mar 2020
1565 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:21 pm to
Try music or research something you're in to. Or take a walk outside. Let your mind race on something you like.
Posted by MissTiger91
Behind enemy lines in Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
662 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 8:47 am to
Do you have any hobbies that you can get lost in? For some people it’s painting or cooking or golf, but something you can be fully immersed in. That’s very helpful for me. However it did take a bit to let myself get lost in the process and get rid of the negative self-talk (“this painting looks like shite, how come I can’t do this?”). The process of learning/trying is now very calming to me. Good luck to you.
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
6926 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:27 am to
I had extreme, extreme issues with this for 5+ years and you honestly just need to stop it. I finally talked to a therapist and he told me I was in control and it started me on the path of being normal again. I quit drinking and taking stimulants, started focusing on consciously relaxing my body (literally relaxing my muscles from head to toe) and calming my mind and it improved slowly but surely. You’re having anxiety issues and you need to treat it accordingly. Meditation makes mine worse too, I honestly play video games for around an hour every afternoon to tire my mind out and it works extremely well too

ETA: reading other responses, mine improved tenfold when I got COVID and started taking multivitamins and minerals every day. I 100% had a chronic vitamin deficiency that was causing anxiety so taking emergen-c plus has helped a lot. I also pray a lot and quit living my life in a fricked up way and it helped
This post was edited on 6/11/21 at 10:30 am
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
77890 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:30 am to
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I had extreme, extreme issues with this for 5+ years and you honestly just need to stop it. I finally talked to a therapist and he told me I was in control and it started me on the path of being normal again. I quit drinking and taking stimulants, started focusing on consciously relaxing my body (literally relaxing my muscles from head to toe) and calming my mind and it improved slowly but surely. You’re having anxiety issues and you need to treat it accordingly. Meditation makes mine worse too, I honestly play video games for around an hour every afternoon to tire my mind out and it works extremely well too


Bingo. Get professional help from a licensed psychotherapist and possibly a psychiatrist (not a general practitioner) and find what works for you. Alcohol and benzos are not a good long term solution for anyone. Anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves. They may provide some short-term relief, but the rebound is going to make the anxiety worse.

Xanax is the absolute worst anxiolytic due to it's short half life. It takes effect fast but then comes out the system fast, creating dependence in a short period of time. Then, you end up with anxiety AND an addiction. I've seen way too many horror stories over the years. I've seen marriages ruined, careers destroyed, and families ripped apart over prescription Xanax, many of whom were very intelligent and moral people before they started taking it.
This post was edited on 6/11/21 at 11:41 am
Posted by Turbotoes
Clown world
Member since Dec 2020
268 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:35 am to
i got pulled away yesterday. i was able to correct mine as well. i can manage things much better now. Mind/body/soul, i try to hit all 3 everyday. I exercise more, challenge my brain by doing puzzles or learning something new, pray and sit in silence much more. Ease back off of alcohol and weed some and get your mind right. It is okay to be alone with your thoughts without the tv or radio on, whether at home or in the car.
Posted by jkylejohnson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2016
15030 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 9:36 am to
I dealt with this and still occasionally do. I quit drinking 5 years ago and started running. Worked wonders. I still deal with heavy bouts of social anxiety from time to time but I’m still light years better than where I was.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23008 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:26 am to
My wife (no pics) deals with anxiety and she said to recommend this:

1. Journal. Journaling seems lame but start off small and write down everything that comes to your mind and once you're done, look at it. Then on a completely different page write down all the things you're grateful for. It can be things from the day, or just in general.

2. "I don't want to say meditate, but meditate." She says she hates meditating but it really does train your mind to "stop." And you'll have better control of what you're thinking eventually because your mind doesn't just "go."

3. Set your intentions in the morning and at night. Before you go to work, tell yourself you're going to have a good day, a good lunch, a good meeting, whatever. And in the evening tell yourself you're going to relax and that you're going to have a good night's sleep.

4. Avoid drinking caffeine, and take vitamins. If you have to have something to replace caffeine, try caffeine free hot tea. She recommends Celestial sleepytime tea before bed. Says it knocks you out, it's the one with the bear on it.

She says do all of this EVERY DAY, not just on days you think you'll need it
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44411 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:30 am to
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She recommends Celestial sleepytime tea before bed. Says it knocks you out, it's the one with the bear on it.


I didn’t think this would, but it knocks me out.
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