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Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by Nolalakeview
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:42 pm to
Definitely anxiety.
Posted by tigers win2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:44 pm to
Try a low dose of trazadone. You’ll sleep better and be more relaxed. The racing thoughts will diminish too.

This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 8:46 pm
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:36 pm to
Probably not the solution for most people, but getting on Risperdal made my OCD so much better and is the only thing that cures my mind from racing now, I literally can’t sleep without it because my mind races uncontrollably. It’s an antipsychotic used for schizophrenia usually so it’s pretty serious stuff.

I am completely convinced psychiatric medicine has saved my life, I would have definitely ended it all long ago without it.

I use Klonopin as needed which saves me during peak anxiety but it wipes me out and is definitely not for routine mind racing.
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 11:40 pm
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
6926 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:33 am to
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I'm sure it's not recommended from a doctor but it's not like i'm going to drink 1L of titos. I'll probably have 2 drinks and call it a night

So all the responses in this thread and this is what you decide to do? Good luck buddy

This is not a good plan for the long term and whatever mental health issue you’re experiencing is going to get worse from it, trust me, been there done that. You have a long road of hard work and discipline ahead of you if you want to be normal and not a functioning alcoholic/drug addict
Posted by CHiPs25
Member since Apr 2014
3117 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 6:37 pm to
Just to give an update which is somewhat therapeutic for me. I have a call with a psychologist tomorrow. I went to BetterHealth which is a virtual platform to at least just see how it goes. Convienent to be able to zoom in my office and not need to take a lot of time off work. I know what is causing my looping thoughts and I’m hoping to figure out a way to not let these thought takeover, want to find out how to suppress these particular thought and enjoy life. Had a great Friday and Saturday morning but my wife and kid were one Saturday night so I was pretty lonely. Today (Sunday) was rough because I put myself in positions to see stuff that would hurt me.

I’ve decided to drink some Tito’s tonight which is muting the pain and I know is not a long-term fix but for now it’s the right call.
Posted by Nolalakeview
Member since Feb 2015
2350 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:58 am to
Just FYI, alcohol is not the answer to anxiety. It increases it.

Healthline
Posted by CHiPs25
Member since Apr 2014
3117 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:53 pm to
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Just FYI, alcohol is not the answer to anxiety. It increases it.


I completely agree with this but when in the moment, it seems easier to drain the sorrow. This is 100% not the right thing to do.

My call with a psychologist is in 10 minutes to see what she says.
Posted by lob1284
Houma by birth
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 6/14/21 at 5:58 pm to
How was your first appointment?
Posted by CHiPs25
Member since Apr 2014
3117 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:03 pm to
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How was your first appointment?


For not knowing what to expect, I think it went pretty well. I appreciated the thought provoking questions that she was able to ask to have me think about the situation differently. There is a particular reason that I am where I currently am (I’d rather not discuss here) but we are hopefully going to uncover how I can start the recovery process.

I am excited for next weeks session to continue the journey to recovery.

Thanks for asking.
Posted by elcid
Band Camp
Member since Mar 2007
3036 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 4:54 am to
Here I am at 3 AM to try and help LOL. If you drink most days and then try and sleep without a dink or three, your mind will race like crazy. Geting off the sauce will help a lot. Also, 3 grams of GABA before bed. Do some searches on mind racing and GABA.
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:55 am to
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Weed


This but not sn overly powerful strain.

If you can find some oil or edibles with less than 10%thc and a high percentage of cbd.
Find that perfect combination for your needs.
Posted by CHiPs25
Member since Apr 2014
3117 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 1:33 pm to
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If you drink most days and then try and sleep without a dink or three, your mind will race like crazy.


I'm really trying to limit my drinking during the week.

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3 grams of GABA before bed.


I googled this and it kept talking about Magnesium. Is this the same thing?
Posted by elcid
Band Camp
Member since Mar 2007
3036 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:48 pm to
No it is not, you can get GABA in powder form on Amazon.

The drinking rollercoaster will defiantely get your mind racing at bedtime, especially the nights you do not drink. It will take several days to weeks to of no drinking to get back to normal and GABA may help during the transition.
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7942 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 6:44 am to
Just curious OP, but what does the world "feel like" or "look like" when you dont chase your thoughts? Have you tried to face the world as it is, instead of facing it while driving your brain?

In my case, the racing and never-present mind was a way of dissociating because I was in a lot of pain. Chasing every thought was a distraction. I had done it for so long that when I didnt do it and just looked outward at the world, it felt like I was in a fish bowl. Was actually kind of scary and overwhelming.

Are you holding onto something that you need to let go of? Are your thoughts the only thing you can control? The healing is in the scary part where you let go of it
Posted by CHiPs25
Member since Apr 2014
3117 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 3:10 pm to
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what does the world "feel like" or "look like" when you dont chase your thoughts? Have you tried to face the world as it is, instead of facing it while driving your brain?


The chasing the thoughts is a pretty new thing. Of course, i've had days where it's been bad but 29 out of 30 days were good. When i'm not chasing my thoughts, I feel like a normal guy (i guess what is normal).

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Are you holding onto something that you need to let go of?


Yes, I am holding onto something that I'm trying/wanting to release but struggling doing that. I am working on that with my psychologist that I'm starting to see. I've been doing Betterhelp.com which allows me to "chat" with my psychologist as much as I want so I can tell her day-to-day what's going on, what's making me feel this way, etc. I have 1 phone call with her a week for 45 min as well. Expressing what's dragging me down to someone has been something that has been very fruitful for me as what i'm holding onto is something that I can't share with anyone around me, or at least share it and get ideas on how to move past it.

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In my case, the racing and never-present mind was a way of dissociating because I was in a lot of pain.


How did you end up finally letting go? I know time is the healer of everything, but, was that all it took for you?
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7942 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 4:54 pm to
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How did you end up finally letting go? I know time is the healer of everything, but, was that all it took for you?


"Time heals what reason cannot" – Seneca

I spent a lot of time reading about psychology and trying to understand the reason for my turmoil. I dont know that I gained anything but intellectual insight. It didnt actually help with anything.

I tried meditation and had the same result as you. I ended up feeling more like I was failing. I understood the purpose and the supposed benefit but it often made me feel even more dissociated.

I tried self destructing (successfully!). That was obviously a bad choice.

I tried therapy and medication. Therapy just passed the time and medication just numbed me out.

I think the thing that's helped me the most is to just sort of move and act more slowly than I'm used to. I'm normally fast-paced and a fairly high achiever but I could no longer meet my own standards. The pace of life just made it impossible and that made me feel worse. So just slowing every action down to the amount of time it took to do it eventually slowed my mind. It's sort of like that saying "slow is smooth and smooth is fast". When I moved more slowly and deliberately, it opened me up to the present moment. I guess that's just a form of meditation that actually worked with me.

It turns out that there wasnt some magical ceremony that I needed to let go. I needed to be ok in the present. Letting go just sort of happened. But like Seneca said, reason couldnt heal me. It took time to try all of these things out until I stumbled upon the idea of "moving" more slowly.

“Unexpressed emotions will never die. They are buried alive and will come forth later in uglier ways.” Sigmund Freud
Posted by CHiPs25
Member since Apr 2014
3117 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 5:49 pm to
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I needed to be ok in the present.


This. I am looking more and more into Radical Acceptance which is what my psych had described as a way to help the “recovery”. Being able to recognize that the reality is what it is, can help move forward. If we continuously think that we are living in a fantasy world, then we will continue to struggle.

It’s weird to see where I was when this thread started and where I am now. Being able to understand the moment in time is what it is, has helped.

Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7942 posts
Posted on 6/16/21 at 6:28 pm to
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Radical Acceptance


Oh yep I’ve read Tara Brach. I think the key with radical self acceptance is to do it gently and not ram it down your own throat. If that makes sense.

If you’re interested, Jon Kabat-Zinn is also great. “Wherever you go, there you are” especially in audiobook.
Posted by CHiPs25
Member since Apr 2014
3117 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 12:20 am to
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It’s weird to see where I was when this thread started and where I am now.


And back to waking up with mind racing. Everyday is different right now. Have had a really good past few days and started slipping a little yesterday with a pretty shitty day today. Woke up at 1230a and mind immediately started going.

Cows aren’t jumping for me to count!
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37872 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 8:27 am to
When you feel comfortable, think about discussing the root of your issue. That’s the only way to cure it. It sounds deeply personal but I think that might be the only way to curb your problem.
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