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Anyone lose their drive?

Posted on 6/23/24 at 6:07 pm
Posted by CrawfishElvis
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 6/23/24 at 6:07 pm
Just 2 short years ago, I’d wake up at 4AM and go on a 3-5 mile run M-F. Towards the end I could tell my drive was wearing off. I was just doing it to get it done and not really enjoying it. It eventually got down to 2-3 times a week and then I gave up completely. Obviously put some weight on and I’m definitely more depressed than I was.
I had that regimen for about 3 years before I slipped off. During that time I had a side hustle that I made a lot of money off of, I was a better parent and husband, read self help books and listened to podcasts. And I stayed active.
Now it’s not uncommon for me to lay on the couch playing on my phone for most of the weekend.
I’ve tried starting back several times but get about 2-3 weeks in and come up with some excuse to quit.
No I haven’t gotten my T checked, although I’d like to avoid taking it if I can. Just worried about my temper.
My wife thinks I need counseling and have some underlying issues making me this way.
It just seems like I’ve been floating the last 2 years with no real drive or major attempt to better myself.
(We did buy a house several months ago and I basically remodeled it myself, so it’s not like I’ve been a complete loser) but I definitely haven’t been the version of me that I’d like to be.
And I just turned 31.
Just looking for some friendly advice and tips if anyone else has gone through something similar.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/23/24 at 6:38 pm to
Sounds like you burned yourself out. I'm in the same boat. Trying to get back in the groove, but not push myself as hard as before
Posted by calcotron
Member since Nov 2007
10728 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 7:22 pm to
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I was just doing it to get it done and not really enjoying it.


Wait, some people enjoy the running part? I just do it so I can eat what I want. It really sucks while I'm doing it, and I love being done with it early in the day.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
That Overweight Racist State
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/23/24 at 7:34 pm to
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Wait, some people enjoy the running part?


Yeah, go peer into the marathon thread, we are far from mentally stable, but we do actually like running

OP: it's called burn out, if you want to get back into it again you must first forget anything from 2-3 years ago, it'll take you a very long time to get back there and the only way to enjoy it again is going to be to you it very slowly
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 7:45 pm
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
44832 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:07 pm to
Switch it up and hit the gym. Start slow and watch the growth.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47797 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:21 pm to
Phones have really fricked people up
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57067 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 5:09 am to
I'm slow on the "burnout" talk.

At the height of your activity, was it purely exercise and fitness or were you training for something? What was your "why"?

I am very much a process based person. Yes, I like to identify results and accomplishments along the way but I have always found my spot in the process of things working towards those goals. The small successes, the hiccups that cause a shift or adaptation, learning, moving forward, etc.

For me, I LOVED competing. Race day was always the fun part, regardless if it was a 5k, a sprint tri or an Ironman or Marathon.

The process and grind between those race days was where I needed to focus on the process and more importantly, my WHY.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with having fitness and a healthy lifestyle as your why.Setting a good example for your family but there are things you can do during that process to stay engaged.

Look for social runs. Join a gym and try some classes. Play some pickleball. Maybe try a different routine and try running or exercising at a different time of the day. Sign up for a race. Maybe a trail race or something totally different than what you've always done. Maybe a race this winter, in the mountains and you can make a vacation out of it.

I also think your wife'e suggestion of seeing a counselor isn't a bad one.

Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 6/24/24 at 5:35 am to
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wake up at 4AM and go on a 3-5 mile run M-F


I would think this would burn out most people. Do something easier.
If you want to wake up early, just hit the gym and lift some weights. Do some mild cardio after if you have to have cardio.

The way I’ve found to not get burnt out is to make moderate goals with diet and exercise. If either is too strict, it’s easy to throw in the towel.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 7:43 am to
I had no interest in running for pretty much my entire life. Start running for time, but compete with yourself. Do distance 3 days per week and speed work 2 days... I'm not suggesting some actual plan necessarily, just try to go toward or push past your upper end of distance 3 days per week and then run 3-4 miles as fast as you reasonably can the other 2.
Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
7046 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 8:11 am to
I have dealt it with many times. Last year was my worst.

I have a weird approach to working out/running but here goes:

I live about 50-60 mins from my office. So I have an hour commute each way. 42 years old, former college athlete trying to stay in shape.

I leave for work at 5:30 am, so as much as I would like to exercise early and be done, its just not possible for me. I'm jealous of guys that workout before work and have it knocked out before they step foot in the office. I get home around 4:30 every day, and my kids are involved in sports. Usually 3-4 days a week I am heading out around 5:30 to a various park/field/gym.

I lift in my garage, I have a Rogue setup and some dumbells. I shoot for 3 days a week, and do a combination of squats, bench, shoulder press and supplemental lifts followed by ab work. I am usually done in about 55 mins- I don't have time to frick around

I lift seasonally- I am not ashamed to say I do it to look good for pool/beach season. I usually start in March and workout 3 days a week through August.

Last year around June I had my worst case of "don't want to." I didn't want to do anything physical. I didn't want to work out, didn't want to cut the grass, or anything outside. I was in a rut. I would force myself to workout and felt like I had no energy in my lifts. I have also done some running in the past so I thought I would shift to that and catch some life, but after about 2 weeks of short runs, I gave that up as well.

I got my testosterone checked and it was 600, with my free test 6.1. Both within normal levels. I believe I just got burnt out. I had been following this routine for about 4 years and I think it was catching up to me, so I stopped working out in July last year, and didn't touch a weight until this March. I felt like I was burning my candle at both ends. I wake up super early, rush home, workout, and head to practice, get home around 8, take a shower, find something to eat, go to bed, then do it again at 4:45 AM. I wasn't a slob, but I just stopped lifting for a while.

This year I started my workout routine again in March, and every 5 weeks I have taken a week off. Now its almost July and I feel great. Much more energy than last year, and a positive attitude.
I only have one speed- wide open. I am learning that as I get older I have to be satisfied with half speed sometimes. In the past if I skipped a workout, or even a set- I felt like I was a failure. It is still hard for me to miss, but sometimes my body just needs a break. And life gets in the way. With work, kids, and a full schedule, sometimes you have to skip something. I am learning to be okay with that.
Posted by b_w
Member since Dec 2016
311 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 9:27 am to
LINK

Take a look at this group and see if there are any near where you live.

There are a lot of men going through the same things you are experiencing we termed it "Sad Clown" syndrome from a Sopranos episode

It's free

Open to all men

peer led so every workout is different which will help with boredom and it's a great community of men going through the same things you are

Been involved for a few years and it's a game changer if you give it a shot
Posted by lsugerberbaby
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2008
3067 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 9:31 am to
Maybe don't push yourself to wake up at 4:00 and hit it. Just work it back in slowly. When you feel down, go for a walk or run - and relish in the feeling and accomplishment after.

Your "Drive" is an emotion. If you don't feel like doing it, you're not going to do it. You may be able to push yourself past it for a while, but you'll eventually burn yourself out, and cycle this all over again.

Therapy may be helpful for a little bit - give it a shot. Especially if you'd been on some self-help books for a while. Maybe try to find your passion in that again.

What's your social life like? Do you participate in any team activities? Or do you have anyone that you could run/ workout with?

Just take some action, and build on it. And if you miss a day, don't get into the guilt/ shame part.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57067 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

If you don't feel like doing it, you're not going to do it. You may be able to push yourself past it for a while, but you'll eventually burn yourself out, and cycle this all over again.


I don't want to piss in your Cherios but I could not disagree more here.

Discipline is doing what you need to do when you don't want to it. It goes back to what's his "why" and what process he has in place to make that happen. There is not a successful athlete on the planet that doesnt want to get out out of bed and hit a workout...what makes the great truly great are because they do it anyway and just don't go through the motions. They have their "why", they have a plan in place, they will falter, they won't hit every workout, they understand some days will be better than others, they will get back up and try again. They are not driven by pride but rather accomplishment with the understanding and realization that accomplishment comes with sacrifice and discipline.

That "why" can be anything from "I want to run the Boston Marathon" to "I want to be able to play softball in the parents vs kids game when my daughter is 11" BUT there needs to be a why.

When its hot...what's your why?
When it's cold...what's your why?
When you're tired...what's your why?
When your friends say,"C'mon one more beer"...what's your why?
When your muscles ache in rebellion...what's your why?
When you're out to eat and trying to decide between the fried fish or the club sandwich...what's your why?

First, you identify the why then you work on the how, when and where. That's where I think counseling can really help.
This post was edited on 6/24/24 at 12:29 pm
Posted by lsugerberbaby
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2008
3067 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 12:46 pm to
We're speaking the same thing. What is a "why?" It's a purpose or a reason. It's something that you you have a connection with and is tied to your feelings.

There is a big place for discipline, but it's only going to get you so far, if you're not connected to the purpose (or you're "Why"). Discipline will fade...what will last is how you're connected to whatever it is you're doing.

Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57067 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

There is a big place for discipline, but it's only going to get you so far, i


This is where we inherently disagree. Its the one thing that must remain constant. The how, when, where and why can all change and vary. Discipline is always needed.

Yes, there should be a link between the process and the purpose so the chance at consistency remaining disciplined are increased but I don't think discipline has a time limit. It never expires.
Posted by lsugerberbaby
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2008
3067 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 1:22 pm to
Let's say someone is trying to lose weight, and Broccoli is the essential part of that. But let's also say that the person tying to lose weight is absolutely disgusted with broccoli.

Discipline says that maybe they can hold their nose and scarff some down, but that is not sustainable. If they don't love broccoli, chances are, they won't be eating it for very long.

You can't discipline your way through diet and exercise. If you don't love the process, it's going to eventually fade. You've got to love the process for it to be sustainable.

Past this, I'll agree to disagree.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57067 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 1:37 pm to
quote:


Let's say someone is trying to lose weight, and Broccoli is the essential part of that. But let's also say that the person tying to lose weight is absolutely disgusted with broccoli.

Discipline says that maybe they can hold their nose and scarff some down, but that is not sustainable. If they don't love broccoli, chances are, they won't be eating it for very long.


That's not discipline. Discipline doesnt mean beat your head against the wall when alternatives are present.

quote:

You can't discipline your way through diet and exercise.
Not only can you...it's the only way to do it.
Posted by lsugerberbaby
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2008
3067 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 2:04 pm to
At the beginning of ever year, I see a number of new people at the gym. I see them pretty often at 5:00 in the morning. Come March, April, and May, I see them less or not at all. The other people that I see at 5:00 in the morning, are the people that I've seen all year long.

What's the difference? One group of people had the discipline to get up and work out for a while, but probably didn't enjoy it too much...and likely got burned out. The other group wakes up at 5:00 to go to the gym, because they love it. Whatever it is they get from those early morning workouts, it makes them feel good. We all start out with discipline - it's a must, but again - it's not sustainable by itself.

I think we're talking the same thing. Just putting emphasis on the importance of two, different ideas.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
57067 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 2:59 pm to
We’re not talking about the same thing, we disagree and you’re now changing the goalposts now with “not sustainable BY ITSELF”. I’ve said we disagreed from the beginning, and that’s okay.

Consistency requires discipline. It’s not a luxury or a nice perk, it’s a requirement.

You’ve repeatedly said that discipline will fade and I wholeheartedly disagree. The successful implementation of any component of a healthy lifestyle requires discipline. That doesn’t mean without flexibility or balance but it does require discipline.

The how’s, whys, what’s and when’s may and certainly will fade and change and a continued review of what we’re trying to accomplish helps but so long as we are aware of what our “WHY” is, so long as we can answer “why am I even doing this?” and believe our answer then we have a stepping stone for discipline and that’s when accountability steps in.

My tactic to remain disciplined was to continually sign up for races. I think I went close to 15 years where I was always signed up for some race. It gave me a blueprint of what I wanted my regime to look like. At first it was because I wanted to lose weight. Then it was because I wanted to run my first marathon. Then it was because I wanted to run 26.2 under 3:45. Then I waned to quality for 70.3 world championships. Then wanted to win the state age group championship for my AG. Now, I want to run with my daughter’s XC team and eventually it will be because I want to run her first 13.1 with her and then her first 26.2 with her. It’s evolved and will continue to do so. Two hip surgeries. Two shoulder surgeries. Stress fractures in my spine. I it’s all required different implantation. For different goals. But without discipline, none of those goals are reached.




Posted by lsugerberbaby
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2008
3067 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 4:08 pm to
Not moving the goalposts - I've said that discipline is a must. But you can't ride solely on discipline for 15 years straight. Your "wants" for this/ that, they're all desires for something that serves you and gives you satisfaction/ happiness. That's something deeper than discipline. There's no way you can say that you hated all 15 years of your milestones...something greater took over, and that's how you made it to 15 years of achievements.

quote:

For me, I LOVED competing.


That's not discipline - that's an emotional tie to something. But you're preaching that it's all discipline to this dude, when it's not something you can ride on by itself. You loved competing. You weren't disciplined enough to love competing. If you didn't LOVE competing - I promise you wouldn't have done it for 15 years.
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