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re: How upsetting is it to get Swai instead of catfish?
Posted on 2/1/23 at 9:24 am to TackySweater
Posted on 2/1/23 at 9:24 am to TackySweater
Yes every day of my life I go to the ghetto and get a full plate lunch. Without fail.
I mean do you thinkevery food post here is that posters daily meal?
I mean do you thinkevery food post here is that posters daily meal?
Posted on 2/1/23 at 9:46 am to McCauley
Catfish in the north.
The next time you are in the grocery and see frozen catfish in the freezer cases, take a look at the labeling on the box. For years, most of the boxes were labeled "Delta Pride Catfish" They were out of Belzoni, MS, which in those days labeled the town as "The Catfish Capital of America". I think their main processing plant was actually in Isola, about 5 miles up Highway 49, north of Belzoni. In that part of the Delta, there were tens of thousands of acres (112,700 acres reported) of catfish farms. Now, not nearly so many (34,700 acres reported). Some of the land was converted to rice, and much of it to Corn, serving the automotive ethanol industry.
The big producers in Mississippi now include Delta Pride (out of Isola, MS), Simmons, Catfish Producers of America and several smaller operations. Per Mississippi State University reports on the industry, 70% of the catfish sold in the USA is now imported and only 30% domestically produced. The cost of catfish feed is the biggest problem domestic farmers face.
I have always questioned why there is no (not much) domestic production of farm raised Talipia. I guess it is not profitable because of high feed prices in the USA.
Many don't know that the fish Peter, Andrew, James and John - the "sons of Zebidee" fished for in the Sea of Galilee, were Talipia. In that area of the world, Talipia are sometimes called "Jesus Fish". I think most of them sold by Costco, Sams, Walmart, Kroger, Rouses, etc. now come from Asia, farmed by folks who could not care less about Jesus.
edited to add:
Belzoni hosts the Catfish Festival on April 1st. There is a craft fair, Delta Blues and Soul music and lots of opportunities to buy a Fried or Grilled Catfish plate. Might be worth a trip into the MS Delta for some. We have been twice and usually at least talk about going. +- worth the trip to see a place in the middle of catfist/corn/soybean/cotton/Poor folks America.
The next time you are in the grocery and see frozen catfish in the freezer cases, take a look at the labeling on the box. For years, most of the boxes were labeled "Delta Pride Catfish" They were out of Belzoni, MS, which in those days labeled the town as "The Catfish Capital of America". I think their main processing plant was actually in Isola, about 5 miles up Highway 49, north of Belzoni. In that part of the Delta, there were tens of thousands of acres (112,700 acres reported) of catfish farms. Now, not nearly so many (34,700 acres reported). Some of the land was converted to rice, and much of it to Corn, serving the automotive ethanol industry.
The big producers in Mississippi now include Delta Pride (out of Isola, MS), Simmons, Catfish Producers of America and several smaller operations. Per Mississippi State University reports on the industry, 70% of the catfish sold in the USA is now imported and only 30% domestically produced. The cost of catfish feed is the biggest problem domestic farmers face.
I have always questioned why there is no (not much) domestic production of farm raised Talipia. I guess it is not profitable because of high feed prices in the USA.
Many don't know that the fish Peter, Andrew, James and John - the "sons of Zebidee" fished for in the Sea of Galilee, were Talipia. In that area of the world, Talipia are sometimes called "Jesus Fish". I think most of them sold by Costco, Sams, Walmart, Kroger, Rouses, etc. now come from Asia, farmed by folks who could not care less about Jesus.
edited to add:
Belzoni hosts the Catfish Festival on April 1st. There is a craft fair, Delta Blues and Soul music and lots of opportunities to buy a Fried or Grilled Catfish plate. Might be worth a trip into the MS Delta for some. We have been twice and usually at least talk about going. +- worth the trip to see a place in the middle of catfist/corn/soybean/cotton/Poor folks America.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 10:50 am
Posted on 2/1/23 at 9:59 am to MeridianDog
I just hate that idea that a mom and pop place(especially claiming to be cajun, La, or southern in roots) uses this crap fish. Charge the going price and promote that you are serving U.S. Catfish. If your customers are simpletons and don't want to pay for it, then switch, but I won't support a place like that.
ACME is a perfect example of this kind of crap. It’s a regional chain, but ran by accounting folks is what I guess.
And I had to laugh when I was on vacation somewhere along the coast and a restaurant had a chalk board out front that said the fresh gulf fish of the day was Tilapia.
ACME is a perfect example of this kind of crap. It’s a regional chain, but ran by accounting folks is what I guess.
And I had to laugh when I was on vacation somewhere along the coast and a restaurant had a chalk board out front that said the fresh gulf fish of the day was Tilapia.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 10:48 am
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:04 am to notiger1997
So many places have "tilapia" as the gulf fish of the day. That or Salmon.
Catfish isn't my preferred dish. I wanted to try a place. The place had five things on the menu. I didn't want beans as it was Tuesday and I had them the day before at home. I didn't want fried chicken. So fish was my option. I could have just gone somewhere else but this place was on the top of Hold The Mayo's top ten (for red beans) and I happened to pass by at the exact moment I was starting to look for a place to eat.
The place won't make my rotation and didn't Crack into my hood plate lunch spots.
I'll still say the best plate lunches are
Red Wagon - Harahan (still under $10)
Parenton's - Jefferson (huge portions, good food)
Guillory's - Metairie (that local diner)
Radosta's - Metairie (that local sandwich shop)
Sammy's Deli - Elysian and 610 (menu almost too big. Get a Ray Ray)
Catfish isn't my preferred dish. I wanted to try a place. The place had five things on the menu. I didn't want beans as it was Tuesday and I had them the day before at home. I didn't want fried chicken. So fish was my option. I could have just gone somewhere else but this place was on the top of Hold The Mayo's top ten (for red beans) and I happened to pass by at the exact moment I was starting to look for a place to eat.
The place won't make my rotation and didn't Crack into my hood plate lunch spots.
I'll still say the best plate lunches are
Red Wagon - Harahan (still under $10)
Parenton's - Jefferson (huge portions, good food)
Guillory's - Metairie (that local diner)
Radosta's - Metairie (that local sandwich shop)
Sammy's Deli - Elysian and 610 (menu almost too big. Get a Ray Ray)
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:05 am to BhamBlazeDog
quote:Swai is actually a catfish.
I'm not eating Swai or Tilapia in place of catfish.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:48 am to AlxTgr
From the restaurant perspective, especially with inflation and other costs associated the price point is the reason why they are selling it. Grouper, snapper, Mahi for farm raised or fresh local caught is from $8 to $15 a pound. Availability and price varies constantly. Swai is $2.25 a pound and is always available consistently. With that said, I’m always getting fresh fish with no regard for the price when I’m paying for a meal.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 12:16 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
Swai is actually a catfish.
It's also labeled an Iridescent shark, so no thanks.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 12:37 pm to papz
quote:
Swai taste just fine. You'd be surprised how many people can actually tell the difference.
I'm guessing most of those haven't had good pond raised US catfish. You can make Swai taste similar but the mush just kills it for me.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 1:17 pm to ConfusedHawgInMO
Can someone tell me the restaurants in BR that serves real catfish and the ones that don't.
I see Parrain's and Chimes' menu specifically states catfish.
I imagine the fried fish at the lunch bar at Rouses is basa.
Poboy express menu states catfish.
I see Parrain's and Chimes' menu specifically states catfish.
I imagine the fried fish at the lunch bar at Rouses is basa.
Poboy express menu states catfish.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 2/1/23 at 1:44 pm to Napoleon
If you watch the 60 minutes special on Chinese Fish, you will not eat them.
They are grown in ponds full of shite, and they eat each other's turds.
They are grown in ponds full of shite, and they eat each other's turds.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 2:14 pm to Professor Boudin
If you skin catfish it will curl up when you fry it. If you fillet catfish it will not. That thin membrane is what makes it curl.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 2:56 pm to BhamBlazeDog
quote:Why is that name an issue?
It's also labeled an Iridescent shark, so no thanks.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 3:41 pm to LSUballs
Funny how often catfish gets catfished ....
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:04 pm to Napoleon
quote:
I mean do you thinkevery food post here is that posters daily meal?
I have no reason to think otherwise
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:51 pm to Napoleon
Freshwater fish is garbage. It’s going to be trash from whatever gas station you bought it from.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 11:56 pm
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:15 am to Napoleon
I never order fish or seafood at any place without asking where it was sourced. This includes shrimp. You would be surprised if you just asked.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 7:22 am to notiger1997
quote:
I just hate that idea that a mom and pop place(especially claiming to be cajun, La, or southern in roots) uses this crap fish.
Blake's in Thibodaux on the Bypass Rd used to serve fried catfish. It was pretty decent. Then I noticed one day that "cat" was removed from the listing. Figured they switched to Basa or Swai so I asked Blake one day when he was in there. Basa. It's still not terrible but definitely a difference. And they sell a shite-pile of it every day. People just assume it's catfish.
I buy my catfish from two local retirees. $4.00lb and the prettiest, whitest, cleanest little strips you wanna see.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 7:31 am to AlxTgr
quote:
Why is that name an issue?
Aren't there people in this thread comparing the texture and taste to catfish?
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:33 am to BhamBlazeDog
quote:I don't know but Swai is catfish, so it's like comparing catfish to catfish. I mean, I prefer flathead to channel, and channel to blue, and blue to bullhead.
Aren't there people in this thread comparing the texture and taste to catfish?
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:37 am to AlxTgr
I know you guys are hating on the fish, but honestly to most people fried fish is fried fish.
There are restaurants that serve both, or multiple fried fish at least.
As said, local catfish is not a small upcharge, its a lot. Asian fish is dirt cheap.
I'd bet if you did something like:
Fried fish (basa, swai, or tilapia) $9.99
Fried Catfish $13.99
Fried Snapper $18.99
I'd bet that the snapper and fish would sell the most. People either want the "best" or they want cheap shite. Generally speaking.
There are restaurants that serve both, or multiple fried fish at least.
As said, local catfish is not a small upcharge, its a lot. Asian fish is dirt cheap.
I'd bet if you did something like:
Fried fish (basa, swai, or tilapia) $9.99
Fried Catfish $13.99
Fried Snapper $18.99
I'd bet that the snapper and fish would sell the most. People either want the "best" or they want cheap shite. Generally speaking.
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